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though I can safely say that $500k year is VERY HIGH for a CISO. I know CISOs for publicly listed F500s who earn around 200-300k at most after 15-20 YoE. … If

though I can safely say that $500k year is VERY HIGH for a CISO. I know CISOs for publicly listed F500s who earn around 200-300k at most after 15-20 YoE. … If I'm honest, most security engineers suck. 90% are crappy IT Admins or Compliance Monkeys who did CISSP and maybe worked for PWC or an MDR for 1-2 years and don't know the difference between NFTables and NTFS. Most CISOs and VP Sec are former security engineers in turn. You get what you pay for. Dinosaur companies still can’t stomach paying “nerds” more than their Assistant Regional Managers and it shows. Maybe they’ll be extinct soon.

alephnerd 3y ago
> Dinosaur companies I'm curious what are the dinosaur companies in your mind. Some "dinosaurs" are actually extremely technical and on top of their shit, and some companies HNers/Redditors/LWers love for their supposed engineering chops have their pants off. Also the number I gave was for a sexy publicly listed tech company that a lot of HNers try to Leetcode grind to. > more than their Assistant Regional Managers In most companies outside of the High Tech and Finance sector, margins are extremely low and even a GM will earn at most $150k and maybe $20-30k stock, despite owning a 9 figure BU.
- bradleyjg 3y ago
  Come off of it. This guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Venables_(computer_scientist) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Venables_(computer_scie... isn’t making only $500k a year in total comp. Nor is an assistant regional manager at say, Target, making only $180k/year. Quit making things up.