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I have extremely low confidence in Google's ability to do anything. This is a problem that's been around for years and they're getting around to telling people

I have extremely low confidence in Google's ability to do anything. This is a problem that's been around for years and they're getting around to telling people that they're working on this? This makes me think of how I get a notification for every spam text message. It's the most enraging thing. I'd rather just get the spam text and ignore it myself than get a notification that I got a spam text and have to ignore or read it. My point is - once upon a time Google had the confidence to develop features. Imagine getting a notification every time your Gmail gets spammed. You don't because Google is confident they can detect spam. I'm still getting spam text notifications on my Android because Google isn't confident and I think that's the same reason they haven't already solved unknown callers.

Dorcy64 3y ago
> I'm still getting spam text notifications on my Android because Google isn't confident and I think that's the same reason they haven't already solved unknown callers. I just checked my messages on my phone running Android 14 and it seems like there is a "spam and blocked" section, of messages that never made it to me and didn't come up as notifications. Would be nice if they gave me the ability to make spam-likely calls not ring or appear.
- xnx 3y ago
  > Would be nice if they gave me the ability to make spam-likely calls not ring or appear. I'd mute all calls, but Android doesn't let you mute ring volume without also muting notification volume.
  - xethos 3y ago
    Then set your ringtone to a "silence.ogg" track. All calls play the ringtone still, but the ringtone is dead air - and this has no effect on notifications.
- gs17 3y ago
  They don't come up as "real" notifications, but I get a silent notification that something was sent to the spam SMS inbox.
gs17 3y ago
That's not just Google. My university uses Outlook and however they've set it up, I don't get spam, I get an email that I got a spam email. If I want to see the filtered email, I have to click a link in that email to a different webpage which takes a long time to load and requires multiple steps to view the message. The email also is sort of a digest so it's delayed, which is very frustrating when it decides a colleague's urgent message was spam.
slake 3y ago
And you know Google is using it's spam filter only so that they become the gatekeeper to your email. It's like SMS. First google added a spam filter for text messages and used our help to train it. Now I get "Verified by google" spam messages from companies that I didn't give my number to. Beware the free spam filter it's primarily a way for google to sell you more verified ads.

Dorcy64 3y ago

> I'm still getting spam text notifications on my Android because Google isn't confident and I think that's the same reason they haven't already solved unknown callers. I just checked my messages on my phone running Android 14 and it seems like there is a "spam and blocked" section, of messages that never made it to me and didn't come up as notifications. Would be nice if they gave me the ability to make spam-likely calls not ring or appear.

xnx 3y ago
> Would be nice if they gave me the ability to make spam-likely calls not ring or appear. I'd mute all calls, but Android doesn't let you mute ring volume without also muting notification volume.
- xethos 3y ago
  Then set your ringtone to a "silence.ogg" track. All calls play the ringtone still, but the ringtone is dead air - and this has no effect on notifications.
gs17 3y ago
They don't come up as "real" notifications, but I get a silent notification that something was sent to the spam SMS inbox.

gs17 3y ago

That's not just Google. My university uses Outlook and however they've set it up, I don't get spam, I get an email that I got a spam email. If I want to see the filtered email, I have to click a link in that email to a different webpage which takes a long time to load and requires multiple steps to view the message. The email also is sort of a digest so it's delayed, which is very frustrating when it decides a colleague's urgent message was spam.

slake 3y ago

And you know Google is using it's spam filter only so that they become the gatekeeper to your email. It's like SMS. First google added a spam filter for text messages and used our help to train it. Now I get "Verified by google" spam messages from companies that I didn't give my number to. Beware the free spam filter it's primarily a way for google to sell you more verified ads.