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1. I wonder what John Paul I or II would have done. 2. Now you know what those who have apostrophe's, al's, ben, ibn, de la, von, etc. have to go through. 3.

1. I wonder what John Paul I or II would have done. 2. Now you know what those who have apostrophe's, al's, ben, ibn, de la, von, etc. have to go through. 3. People in the Indian state of Mizoram don't have last names. Imagine what Southwest and the TSA would do with that.

Terr_ 3y ago
It's unfortunate that celebrities with odd names are often rich enough that they bypass the problematic flows for regular people with odd names. Nobody hears about The Artist Now Again Known As Prince being held up at the gate and missing their flight, so there's no corresponding PR backlash that fixes things.
miki123211 3y ago
Regarding the John Pauls, they actually had "normal" names, John Paul was strictly a religious designation that they took when they became popes. It's similar with most celebrities, Lady Gaga is known as Lady Gaga by her fans and the media, but she's "Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta" to the government and other bureaucratic institutions.
- eigenket 3y ago
  Technically true but John Paul the second's legal name was "Karol Józef Wojtyła" and the ó and ł cause a lot of badly made software to break.
wtmt 3y ago
> People in the Indian state of Mizoram don't have last names. Imagine what Southwest and the TSA would do with that. For reference, Mizoram is in the northeast of India. People in some other Indian states, including in the south (where the language and culture are quite different), don’t have last names either. In some cases, they may use an initial (just one letter) that’s derived from the father’s name. In some cases even an initial may not be used (mononym). In visas, the U.S. consulate typically puts a “FNU” or “LNU” in these names, standing for “First Name Unknown” and “Last Name Unknown”, respectively. Yet within India people are forced to create last names since some specific government issued IDs require that (it’s clear that those were designed by people who didn’t think of catering to the enormous diversity in the country).

Terr_ 3y ago

It's unfortunate that celebrities with odd names are often rich enough that they bypass the problematic flows for regular people with odd names. Nobody hears about The Artist Now Again Known As Prince being held up at the gate and missing their flight, so there's no corresponding PR backlash that fixes things.

miki123211 3y ago

Regarding the John Pauls, they actually had "normal" names, John Paul was strictly a religious designation that they took when they became popes. It's similar with most celebrities, Lady Gaga is known as Lady Gaga by her fans and the media, but she's "Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta" to the government and other bureaucratic institutions.

eigenket 3y ago
Technically true but John Paul the second's legal name was "Karol Józef Wojtyła" and the ó and ł cause a lot of badly made software to break.

wtmt 3y ago

> People in the Indian state of Mizoram don't have last names. Imagine what Southwest and the TSA would do with that. For reference, Mizoram is in the northeast of India. People in some other Indian states, including in the south (where the language and culture are quite different), don’t have last names either. In some cases, they may use an initial (just one letter) that’s derived from the father’s name. In some cases even an initial may not be used (mononym). In visas, the U.S. consulate typically puts a “FNU” or “LNU” in these names, standing for “First Name Unknown” and “Last Name Unknown”, respectively. Yet within India people are forced to create last names since some specific government issued IDs require that (it’s clear that those were designed by people who didn’t think of catering to the enormous diversity in the country).