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Haha, by your reckoning why not monitor all comms for any lies? This is why we can’t have nice things. We are walking into a new Robodebt scenario run by AI - i

by medion 2y ago

Haha, by your reckoning why not monitor all comms for any lies? This is why we can’t have nice things. We are walking into a new Robodebt scenario run by AI - it’s all too much living in a constant state of surveillance and it’s not a world I want to live in.

killingtime74 2y ago
I don't represent any view point on the law just telling you how it is. There's always multiple competing priorities. Ultimately not a politician so it doesn't really matter what I think. If we're talking morality I don't see how it's moral to ask the law to protect you from being found out doing the wrong thing. If these people don't pay their fair share the rest of us have to pay more. What if a law change prevents the government from enforcing environmental legislation from illegal land clearing or dumping? What if a farmer illegally diverts more water than they are allowed to from a river or with a well? It's not just about you and me but the whole country. On robodebt: that has nothing to do with privacy, tax records aren't private from the government? That's just bad tax enforcement.
- medion 2y ago
  We have communities which can manage their own local issues internally - rather than aerial surveillance tech and AI keeping watch of our every move. We all know this will be used for minor infringements and revenue raising, more paperwork and more red tape. Like I said, by your token, monitor all comms and detect lies and infringements. Ban blinds and curtains too so we can get changed in public view.
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dontupvoteme 2y ago
Don't give aussies any ideas, they tried to make mathematics illegal. Sometimes they take the worst aspects of the british and americans and make it their own
- killingtime74 2y ago
  By far the worst thing we have is lack of protection on whistleblowers. There's multiple facing decades in jail right now. Even a change in governments didn't stop the prosecutions
  - medion 2y ago
    By far the worst thing is what we don’t have: a bill of rights.

by medion 2y ago

killingtime74 2y ago

I don't represent any view point on the law just telling you how it is. There's always multiple competing priorities. Ultimately not a politician so it doesn't really matter what I think. If we're talking morality I don't see how it's moral to ask the law to protect you from being found out doing the wrong thing. If these people don't pay their fair share the rest of us have to pay more. What if a law change prevents the government from enforcing environmental legislation from illegal land clearing or dumping? What if a farmer illegally diverts more water than they are allowed to from a river or with a well? It's not just about you and me but the whole country. On robodebt: that has nothing to do with privacy, tax records aren't private from the government? That's just bad tax enforcement.

medion 2y ago
We have communities which can manage their own local issues internally - rather than aerial surveillance tech and AI keeping watch of our every move. We all know this will be used for minor infringements and revenue raising, more paperwork and more red tape. Like I said, by your token, monitor all comms and detect lies and infringements. Ban blinds and curtains too so we can get changed in public view.
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dontupvoteme 2y ago

Don't give aussies any ideas, they tried to make mathematics illegal. Sometimes they take the worst aspects of the british and americans and make it their own

killingtime74 2y ago
By far the worst thing we have is lack of protection on whistleblowers. There's multiple facing decades in jail right now. Even a change in governments didn't stop the prosecutions
- medion 2y ago
  By far the worst thing is what we don’t have: a bill of rights.