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This is not a technology or privacy problem - it's a legislative one. If it's illegal to do X, then it seems reasonable for the gov't to enforce that - the more

This is not a technology or privacy problem - it's a legislative one. If it's illegal to do X, then it seems reasonable for the gov't to enforce that - the more efficiently the better. And if enforcing it seems wrong, then maybe it shouldn't be a law. For another toy example, what if speed laws in the US were fully enforced 100% of the time - they would be yanked immediately, because they are dumb and mostly just used to fund the police. We only tolerate them because they aren't enforced on us very often as individuals. It's like a medium-skill lottery to see who pays for the police.

medion 3y ago
The technology is an enabler and it creeps into everything and before you know it we are where we are today.
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ahtihn 3y ago
> what if speed laws in the US were fully enforced 100% of the time - they would be yanked immediately, because they are dumb and mostly just used to fund the police Or maybe people would adjust their behavior and respect speed limits? Laws that are sporadically enforced at the discretion of police officers are awful. It just enables discrimination.
- Nifty3929 3y ago
  Totally agree! People might adjust their speeds. Or continue speeding and accept the fines. But getting mad and forcing the law to change seems more likely to me. But partially enforced laws are the worst.
slyall 3y ago
The US is very lax about enforcing speed laws compared to other countries. Compare to somewhere like Australia where you get fined for just going a few km/h over the limit and the use speed cameras extensively. https://www.qld.gov.au/about/newsroom/increased-penalties-for-dangerous-driving-behaviours https://www.qld.gov.au/about/newsroom/increased-penalties-fo... Whereas it seems to be common in parts of the US for everyone on a freeway to be 10 miles/hour over the limit and nobody cares
- Nifty3929 3y ago
  What is the Australian citizen’s sentiment toward these speed laws? And what are the limits on a typical freeway?
  - slyall 3y ago
    I'm not from Australia (in NZ) but I'd expect the usual range of views. However fines are a voluntary payment to usually attract less opposition Typical limits are here. 100 km/h on most freeways, 100km/h on ones built to higher standards. https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/speed-limits https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/speed-limits

medion 3y ago

The technology is an enabler and it creeps into everything and before you know it we are where we are today.

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ahtihn 3y ago

> what if speed laws in the US were fully enforced 100% of the time - they would be yanked immediately, because they are dumb and mostly just used to fund the police Or maybe people would adjust their behavior and respect speed limits? Laws that are sporadically enforced at the discretion of police officers are awful. It just enables discrimination.

Nifty3929 3y ago
Totally agree! People might adjust their speeds. Or continue speeding and accept the fines. But getting mad and forcing the law to change seems more likely to me. But partially enforced laws are the worst.

slyall 3y ago

The US is very lax about enforcing speed laws compared to other countries. Compare to somewhere like Australia where you get fined for just going a few km/h over the limit and the use speed cameras extensively. https://www.qld.gov.au/about/newsroom/increased-penalties-for-dangerous-driving-behaviours https://www.qld.gov.au/about/newsroom/increased-penalties-fo... Whereas it seems to be common in parts of the US for everyone on a freeway to be 10 miles/hour over the limit and nobody cares

Nifty3929 3y ago
What is the Australian citizen’s sentiment toward these speed laws? And what are the limits on a typical freeway?
- slyall 3y ago
  I'm not from Australia (in NZ) but I'd expect the usual range of views. However fines are a voluntary payment to usually attract less opposition Typical limits are here. 100 km/h on most freeways, 100km/h on ones built to higher standards. https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/speed-limits https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/speed-limits