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After shooting, MSU promised safety. It delivered surveillance
- monkburger 3y agoAmerica: Land of Gun Care and Health Control
- jkonline 3y agoWar is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. George Orwell, 1984
- coffeebeqn 3y agoI guess this has always applied but it certainly sounds true today
- sneak 3y agoIt is important to measure any response to a tragic event against the metric of “would this remediation, if it had been in place before the event, prevented it or improved the outcome?” Most responses to gun violence in the US fail this test.
- andy99 3y agoNever let a good tragedy go to waste right? Political reactions never are about solving the problem, they're about exploiting tragedy to push through something one's camp already wanted.
- chiefalchemist 3y agoYes, an obvious question that leagues of mainstream "journalists" consistently fail to ask. But not only is mass shooting porn good for rating, and nudging the next mass shooter into position but it serves The State as well. It's not a good when the self-proclaimed free press misses softball questions that would challenge the narrative of The State. But it's hard to point at something that isn't there even when that void is the exact problem you wish to highlight.
- cozzyd 3y ago[flagged]
- zardo 3y agoThis isn't a response to the shooting, according to the article they had decided to implement it prior to the shooting.
- pseingatl 3y agoReminds me of Baghdad.
- forrestthewoods 3y agoIsn’t that kind of how it works? Safety is a “no broken windows” problem. People who commit crimes need to be caught and punished at a very high rate. This basically requires surveillance, no? Surveillance doesn’t guarantee safety. But what is the counter proposal on how to turn a large, unsafe location into a safe one? I expect downvotes for this. But seriously. What do you propose? Is surveillance not exactly how countries like the UK and Singapore provide safety? Can anyone cite an example of a “safety turnaround” not based on surveillance? Believe you me I wish that weren’t the case! Someone show me the alternative, please!
- warkdarrior 3y agoThe problem with the current approach is that it collects data and monitors the movement of everyone present, include innocent people. The data is centrally gathered and used for privacy violating purposes. A better option would be to decentralize the monitoring and enforcement. Autonomous robots with cameras and guns could be installed everywhere - - they'd process all video locally, by themselves, and could take action right away. This way privacy is not violated.
- forrestthewoods 3y ago> Autonomous robots with cameras and guns Yikes! That’s gonna violate something alright.
- nanocode 3y ago>Autonomous robots with cameras and guns could be installed everywhere At this point I'm not even sure if you're sarcastic. Or are you an agent of the upcoming robot uprising? Who knows!
- squarefoot 3y ago> Autonomous robots with cameras and guns Soon on 0days market price list: - Root access at google.com: $200.000 - Data access to any Ring video doorbell cameras: $150.000 - Full control of gun equipped robots at schools: $50.000 Prices pulled out of you know where, but you get the point.
- _hcuq 3y ago[flagged]
- squarefoot 3y agoEven more worrying after adjusting 2020 and 2021 values considering school closures due to the pandemic.
- mvdtnz 3y agoMichigan State University
- xyst 3y agoFuture headline: ”minimum wage surveillance worker uses $10M+ system to stalk students on campus”
- janice1999 3y agoMy predictions... "University profits by selling behavioural data and close contact list of students to advertisers" "University secretly assigns students AI social credit score" "Students face crushing AI generated bills for minor infractions and behavior like loitering, poor and minority students most affected."
- startupsfail 3y agoOr: “Weaponized campus police drone used lethal force to stop the mass shooter drone.\n This is the second time in this week when...”
- rmason 3y agoI am a local, I both attended and worked at Michigan State. I believe that MSU needs to provide a value to students and employees with all this surveillance. At Oakland University near Detroit they were named the second safest campus in America. Like MSU they have lots of cameras. But a student can launch an app and say I am walking from the library to my dorm please follow me. That students path will be monitored until they safely arrive. Students rave about the system.
- startupsfail 3y agoI wonder what other costly, dangerous and useless stuff one can distribute, so kids and students can be endangered even more, so this would warrant more surveillance and policing? Besides guns, alcohol and amphetamines?