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My first thought was "all this goes out the window once you scale from pets to livestock," but my second thought was that, of course, we can automate these thin

by gavmor 3y ago

My first thought was "all this goes out the window once you scale from pets to livestock," but my second thought was that, of course, we can automate these things, too. eg human-readable-id[0] and some others I in a markdown page.[1] 0. https://www.npmjs.com/package/human-readable-ids https://www.npmjs.com/package/human-readable-ids 1. https://github.com/grantcarthew/awesome-unique-id https://github.com/grantcarthew/awesome-unique-id

o11c 3y ago
The real thing that seems obsolete to me, even among pets, is the idea of "reuse a computer without reinstalling the OS". Even by 2000 a regular wipe seemed standard (admittedly often because Windows), but I wasn't around in 1990 ... Currently I'm naming all my devices after moons, from largest to smallest. So far I haven't confused myself with `io.local`, though I think about it a lot. It probably helps that it's a device that's pretty isolated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_satellites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_satellites and sort by "mean radius", or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_by_size https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_b... and filter by color manually.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  > but I wasn't around in 1990 ... It wasn't a 5 or even 15 minutes process. It involved anywhere from 5 to 25 floppies, you need to sit and watch (at least occasionally) at the screen to change the disks, of course disk #13, which you used just fine yesterday, now has an unreadable sector and not only you need to procure a replacement but the computer you [tried to] reinstall is now surely non-operational.
  - hyperdimension 3y ago
    I remember one of my first computers gifted to me with Windows 3.1(1?) on it and a bunch of games installed on it. I had a lot of fun with that computer. One day I managed to screw up Windows so it wouldn't start anymore. Luckily they were kind enough to include a copy of Windows on floppy disks. One of the disks (7/13?) had an error on it, and I never was able to reinstall Windows. Damn you, GDI.DLL. I know it was always GDI.DLL it would fail on because I probably tried to reinstall it ten times, hoping for a different outcome. Back to DOS for me. At least I learned batch scripting...
    - o11c 3y ago
      For reference, I do remember (admittedly mostly from retroactive poking around): For Windows 95, boot floppies were generally assumed to be needed (El Torito was only invented in late 1994), though the CD was usually used for the main installation. For Windows 98, boot from CD was widely assumed to work at least on machines that came with it.
- beacon294 3y ago
  I use moons too, however I am allocating io now for a local 10 gib k3s cluster...
mindslight 3y ago
"Livestock not pets" reflects the values of the surveillance industry, which needs scale-everything architectures as a result of treating users as livestock to be farmed. My machines each serve specific purposes, and I have a lovely cat. I don't need my own copy of AWS nor a pack of dogs.
- seanhunter 3y ago
  Agree. Also why shouldn't we be nice to livestock? It's not a requirement to be nasty.
  - pimlottc 3y ago
    I remember when the original "pets vs cattle" viral post took off in the tech world, it wasn't long before folks from the farming world started hearing about it and saying, "actually, that's not how you treat cattle..."
    - mindslight 3y ago
      Ignoring the inconvenient real details, in favor of an imagined model without them. Classic surveillance industry! Yeah, my uncle had a small herd of cows and they all had names.
    - gavmor 3y ago
      I used to say "writing software ain't like digging ditches; you don't get steady progress out for steady human-hours in" until I had a client who dug a lot of ditches. They informed me that ditch-digging also goes in fits and starts. Ever since, I've had to say "writing software is like digging ditches." Although, truth be told, ever since then I simply tell this whole story.

by gavmor 3y ago

o11c 3y ago

The real thing that seems obsolete to me, even among pets, is the idea of "reuse a computer without reinstalling the OS". Even by 2000 a regular wipe seemed standard (admittedly often because Windows), but I wasn't around in 1990 ... Currently I'm naming all my devices after moons, from largest to smallest. So far I haven't confused myself with `io.local`, though I think about it a lot. It probably helps that it's a device that's pretty isolated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_satellites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_satellites and sort by "mean radius", or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_by_size https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Solar_System_objects_b... and filter by color manually.

justsomehnguy 3y ago
> but I wasn't around in 1990 ... It wasn't a 5 or even 15 minutes process. It involved anywhere from 5 to 25 floppies, you need to sit and watch (at least occasionally) at the screen to change the disks, of course disk #13, which you used just fine yesterday, now has an unreadable sector and not only you need to procure a replacement but the computer you [tried to] reinstall is now surely non-operational.
- hyperdimension 3y ago
  I remember one of my first computers gifted to me with Windows 3.1(1?) on it and a bunch of games installed on it. I had a lot of fun with that computer. One day I managed to screw up Windows so it wouldn't start anymore. Luckily they were kind enough to include a copy of Windows on floppy disks. One of the disks (7/13?) had an error on it, and I never was able to reinstall Windows. Damn you, GDI.DLL. I know it was always GDI.DLL it would fail on because I probably tried to reinstall it ten times, hoping for a different outcome. Back to DOS for me. At least I learned batch scripting...
  - o11c 3y ago
    For reference, I do remember (admittedly mostly from retroactive poking around): For Windows 95, boot floppies were generally assumed to be needed (El Torito was only invented in late 1994), though the CD was usually used for the main installation. For Windows 98, boot from CD was widely assumed to work at least on machines that came with it.
beacon294 3y ago
I use moons too, however I am allocating io now for a local 10 gib k3s cluster...

mindslight 3y ago

"Livestock not pets" reflects the values of the surveillance industry, which needs scale-everything architectures as a result of treating users as livestock to be farmed. My machines each serve specific purposes, and I have a lovely cat. I don't need my own copy of AWS nor a pack of dogs.

seanhunter 3y ago
Agree. Also why shouldn't we be nice to livestock? It's not a requirement to be nasty.
- pimlottc 3y ago
  I remember when the original "pets vs cattle" viral post took off in the tech world, it wasn't long before folks from the farming world started hearing about it and saying, "actually, that's not how you treat cattle..."
  - mindslight 3y ago
    Ignoring the inconvenient real details, in favor of an imagined model without them. Classic surveillance industry! Yeah, my uncle had a small herd of cows and they all had names.
  - gavmor 3y ago
    I used to say "writing software ain't like digging ditches; you don't get steady progress out for steady human-hours in" until I had a client who dug a lot of ditches. They informed me that ditch-digging also goes in fits and starts. Ever since, I've had to say "writing software is like digging ditches." Although, truth be told, ever since then I simply tell this whole story.