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What are the downsides with GrapheneOS? I had a few problems with root (Netflix and banking apps) but would love my privacy. My main reason for root is the fire

What are the downsides with GrapheneOS? I had a few problems with root (Netflix and banking apps) but would love my privacy. My main reason for root is the firewall to block outgoing connections from apps that are not supposed to do it

0xcde4c3db 3y ago
It's really a downside of the Google app ecosystem and not GrapheneOS per se, but apps requiring higher levels of integrity per Google attestation (Play Integrity/SafetyNet) generally won't work. Intentionally breaking apps on "untrusted" configurations is basically the point of that feature, and GrapheneOS does provide the relevant services, but would need to be specifically enabled by the app developer.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  So Netflix and such DO NOT work on phone? That's really frustrating
udev4096 3y ago
Firewall wouldn't be necessary with GrapheneOS. There's a network toggle which you can use to completely cut off internet access for an app. As for the downsides, I would say close to zero. It feels just like a stock OS, without any kind of bloatware and a lot more secure
ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
GrapheneOS is not rooted, so you won't have those issues. GrapheneOS also gives you a Network permission per-app; if you uncheck it, the app has no connectivity, period. Highly recommended.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  Based on the other comment thread, it seems like Play Integrity and SafetyNet do not succeed and as such, can't really use Netflix, is that correct?
  - ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
    Apparently Google is playing games in the Play Store, but if you can get it installed then it runs fine: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/696-issues-with-netflix-app https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/696-issues-with-netflix-app I just verified that I could download it just fine using Aurora Store, and I don't have Google anything installed.
switch007 3y ago
No NFC payments with Google wallet. You can get unlucky with your bank app but someone maintains a wiki of compatible banking apps Android auto works OK.
DEADMINCE 3y ago
One big downside is being limited to Pixel phones, without good reason.

0xcde4c3db 3y ago

It's really a downside of the Google app ecosystem and not GrapheneOS per se, but apps requiring higher levels of integrity per Google attestation (Play Integrity/SafetyNet) generally won't work. Intentionally breaking apps on "untrusted" configurations is basically the point of that feature, and GrapheneOS does provide the relevant services, but would need to be specifically enabled by the app developer.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
So Netflix and such DO NOT work on phone? That's really frustrating

udev4096 3y ago

Firewall wouldn't be necessary with GrapheneOS. There's a network toggle which you can use to completely cut off internet access for an app. As for the downsides, I would say close to zero. It feels just like a stock OS, without any kind of bloatware and a lot more secure

ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago

GrapheneOS is not rooted, so you won't have those issues. GrapheneOS also gives you a Network permission per-app; if you uncheck it, the app has no connectivity, period. Highly recommended.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
Based on the other comment thread, it seems like Play Integrity and SafetyNet do not succeed and as such, can't really use Netflix, is that correct?
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
  Apparently Google is playing games in the Play Store, but if you can get it installed then it runs fine: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/696-issues-with-netflix-app https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/696-issues-with-netflix-app I just verified that I could download it just fine using Aurora Store, and I don't have Google anything installed.

switch007 3y ago

No NFC payments with Google wallet. You can get unlucky with your bank app but someone maintains a wiki of compatible banking apps Android auto works OK.

DEADMINCE 3y ago

One big downside is being limited to Pixel phones, without good reason.