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It scans your face in a public place in order to do facial recognition. What happens if I want to go to a public place WITHOUT having my face scanned for facial

by awolf 14y ago

It scans your face in a public place in order to do facial recognition. What happens if I want to go to a public place WITHOUT having my face scanned for facial recognition and inclusion in some startup's dataset? Do I not get a say? Is that not my right? Where do we draw the line?

greghinch 14y ago
I don't know, by the same logic you could say you have a right to not let other people look at you in public (you don't). I understand the desire for a right to privacy (despite no such explicit right being anywhere in the constitution), but when you are in public, you be definition give up some privacy. The thing is, I think most people who object to this so much would probably never even visit those bars where people care what the "scene" is like anyway
- MBlume 14y ago
  This. I'm having serious difficulty imagining that anyone would object this much if the bar simply hired someone to sit in the corner, count the men and women, and post the numbers on a twitter feed.
  - anthonyb 14y ago
    Because it's a very short hop from what's described here to full-on tracking, and some marketing company knowing where you are, what you're doing and who you're with at all times. It's a similar situation to Google's street view - sure, it's in theory in the public domain, but when you start aggregating this sort of thing and making it searchable, it's different.
citricsquid 14y ago
a bar is not a public place, it's a private place that the public are invited into.
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- jrockway 14y ago
  Aren't bars more formally referred to as "public houses"?
  - citricsquid 14y ago
    sure, but public in "public house" (or just "pub") means open to the public, it doesn't mean that the public have some sort of right to access, whereas a public street means it's accessible by everyone. Relating to the usage of the word public, humorously in England we have "public school" which is the American "private school", in America if you go to public school you're considered normal and in England if you go to public school you're considered rich.

by awolf 14y ago

greghinch 14y ago

I don't know, by the same logic you could say you have a right to not let other people look at you in public (you don't). I understand the desire for a right to privacy (despite no such explicit right being anywhere in the constitution), but when you are in public, you be definition give up some privacy. The thing is, I think most people who object to this so much would probably never even visit those bars where people care what the "scene" is like anyway

MBlume 14y ago
This. I'm having serious difficulty imagining that anyone would object this much if the bar simply hired someone to sit in the corner, count the men and women, and post the numbers on a twitter feed.
- anthonyb 14y ago
  Because it's a very short hop from what's described here to full-on tracking, and some marketing company knowing where you are, what you're doing and who you're with at all times. It's a similar situation to Google's street view - sure, it's in theory in the public domain, but when you start aggregating this sort of thing and making it searchable, it's different.

citricsquid 14y ago

a bar is not a public place, it's a private place that the public are invited into.

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jrockway 14y ago
Aren't bars more formally referred to as "public houses"?
- citricsquid 14y ago
  sure, but public in "public house" (or just "pub") means open to the public, it doesn't mean that the public have some sort of right to access, whereas a public street means it's accessible by everyone. Relating to the usage of the word public, humorously in England we have "public school" which is the American "private school", in America if you go to public school you're considered normal and in England if you go to public school you're considered rich.