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Farmed salmon production leads to an overall loss of essential dietary nutrients
- krunck 2y agoBrought to you by Trawlers of the World, Inc.
- lucb1e 2y agoIn case you're not (fully) joking > The research was funded by the Scottish Government’s Rural and Environmental Science and Analytical Services Division (RESAS) With the authors listed as working for University of Cambridge, University of Stirling, University of Aberdeen, and Lancaster University
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- mrabcx 2y agoVegan diets are prone to vitamin B12 deficiencies. Same with vitamin D.
- lagniappe 2y agoAlso prone to talking about it a lot, nobody has time to add all that talking to their diet.
- tasty_freeze 2y agoWhich is not a difficult to solve problem. Carnivorous diets can have their own problematic health outcomes.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 2y agoAlso Iron. There are plant sources of iron, but they're not as easily absorbed.
- bentt 2y agoWeird it is almost as if a single organism doesn't exist in isolation from its ecosystem! Quick, someone write a paper.
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- apothegm 2y agoThe comparison wasn’t farmed vs wild salmon. It was a comparison between the nutrients in the farmed salmon and those in the fish used to feed those salmon. Basically, there’s inefficiency in nutrient retention. Also not shocking, but not about the fish being in or out of their native ecosystem.
- bentt 2y agoHow is this not about fish being in their native ecosystem? There are an infinity of variables we are unaware of. There are no doubt microorganisms in the natural ecosystem that the farmed salmon don't have now which help them retain nutrients. Anyway, my point in being snarky is OF COURSE
- ericskiff 2y agoSo this study seems to be about maximizing the nutrients from sea catches to consumption, suggesting we should eat what we feed the salmon instead of the farmed salmon themselves, but anchovies, herring, and mackerel aren’t on most people’s menu often. This study is not about whether farmed or wild caught fish are better for you.
- lagniappe 2y ago> anchovies, herring, and mackerel aren’t on most people’s menu often. y'all are missing out!
- djbusby 2y agoGotta save the anchovies for robot oil.
- lucb1e 2y ago> we should eat what we feed the salmon I seem to recall there are some nutrients we need to ingest because we cannot efficiently produce them ourselves. B12 comes to mind, checking Wikipedia: >> Vitamin B12 is [...] for humans the only vitamin that must be sourced from animal-derived foods or supplements. [...] Foods containing vitamin B12 include meat, clams, liver, fish, poultry, eggs, and dairy products. Many breakfast cereals are fortified with the vitamin. >> It is synthesized by some bacteria in the gut microbiota in humans and other animals, but it has long been thought that humans cannot absorb this as it is made in the colon, downstream from the small intestine, where the absorption of most nutrients occurs. (FTR I've noticed this is sometimes perceived, or used, as an argument against veganism but I do not mean it that way at all. I fully support such a diet while getting B12 from the source with the lowest possible animal and/or climate impact.) > anchovies, herring, and mackerel aren’t on most people’s menu often Is it a Dutch thing then? Anchovies are quite common on pizza I think; herring eating is traditional <https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haringhappen https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haringhappen>; and my mom would prepare fresh mackerel regularly (but I cannot be bothered to be honest so I also buy that in a tin). With most population centres being in the vicinity of coastlines, surely eating fish is common around the world?
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- candiddevmike 2y agoI've heard a lot of people say farmed salmon tastes different than wild caught. For me, I've never really noticed a difference aside from maybe the coloring. I've never been able to eat anchovies/mackerel/herring as recommended by the article, any tips?
- sojournerc 2y agoGet anchovies in oil rather than brine, they are much more palatable. They might be in a cold case because often they aren't packaged in a can. I make a fresh Caesar dressing with anchovies that's quite good
- davkan 2y agoA few whole anchovies on Caesar salad is good too.
- sojournerc 2y agoFor sure, I usually do both, a couple in the dressing and a couple on top
- 486sx33 2y agoFarmed salmon tastes even less like fish than wild caught salmon, and it tastes a bit more … bland, maybe a little like breadcrumbs. Depending on your area and where you’ve had salmon, you might never have had wild salmon. Also there are how many different varieties of salmon? Quite a few, it’s sort of like asking how does fish taste, we all have a mental reference but what exact fish does that reference correlate to? Probably a mixed experience I enjoy anchovies, mackerel and herring but you will most commonly find those types of fish dried and loaded with salt. Probably nutritious but I wouldn’t call them healthy.
- 486sx33 2y agoTips for eating ? Oil and bread if you’re into that
- jlturner 2y agoThe title put on here is very misleading, the actual title from the article is “Fish fed to farmed salmon should be part of our diet, too, study suggests”.
- benmanns 2y agoOriginal article title: Fish fed to farmed salmon should be part of our diet, too, study suggests Original paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-024-00932-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-024-00932-z https://doi.org/10.1038/s43016-024-00932-z https://doi.org/10.1038/s43016-024-00932-z Original paper title: Wild fish consumption can balance nutrient retention in farmed fish I would be curious how this compares to land-based meat production where we use 2-40x of food input to meat output. But nobody suggests reorganizing the economy to eat grass.
- taeric 2y agoThere are plenty of people that are advocating for moving away from eating cows, though? They don't necessarily say to eat grass, but it is a common complaint that so much farming goes to live stock.
- david38 2y agoA better comparison would be to eat gazelle instead of lion and they would be correct. Feeder fish are still fish, which we are capable of digesting just as well. We are not capable of extracting the same nutrients from grass as cows, or even gorillas.
- Breadmaker 2y ago<But nobody suggests reorganizing the economy to eat grass. actually there are some trying that ;-) The Plant Protein Factory https://universitetslararen.se/2023/02/17/har-gors-framtidens-kott-av-gras-och-klover/ https://universitetslararen.se/2023/02/17/har-gors-framtiden...
- taeric 2y agoFarmed are also dramatically lower in parasites. If you buy wild salmon, make sure to cook it well done. Or that it was frozen.
- graemep 2y agoI think you have that the wrong way round: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/farmed-salmon-decimate-wild-populations-by-exposing-them-to-parasites https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/farmed-sa...
- taeric 2y agoI will try and read that article later when I can bypass paywall, but googling in the past showed 70 to 90 percent of wild salmon have parasites. Personal experience aligned with this. I have no doubts farmed can introduce new parasites. But our supply chains have far cleaner animals than people realize. Is a large part of why rarer steaks are safer today. Edit: I should add it is largely safe to assume farmed has been frozen before you get it as a consumer?
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