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It's amusing that most of the child commenters assume that you switched from left to right, while you were (intentionally) neutral about that.

• bluefirebrand 3y ago
  It's pretty reasonable to guess How many Right-Wing beliefs could you hold 10 years ago that are remotely close to anything Left-wing today? I cant think of anything But there is definitely a trend of people who considered themselves center-left leaning 10-20 years ago feeling politically homeless as the left has pushed away from them and embraced some more radical ideas
  • poulsbohemian 3y ago
    I hear this all the time, but I never see any support for it - what exactly are these radical leftist ideas that have taken hold of our politics? And, between the two parties, which one do you believe has shifted more in the last say, twenty years? What we are actually seeing is center-right people feeling homeless and joining the Democrats, or at least no longer seeing themselves as Republicans. Bill Clinton shifted the Democrats a good distance to the right and in the time since he left office, it’s been more a very, very gradual retreat back to more traditional positions of the left. Don’t mistake campaigning or messaging for actual party policy.
    • bluefirebrand 3y ago
      Maybe you're right, probably this is really just a matter of perspective and personal opinion of what "left" and "right" mean All I know is that for a lot of people that I've spoken to they used to vote for leftist parties, and now they think those parties don't represent what they want anymore The reason you never see anyone offer support for this is because of cancel culture, by the way. People are not going to state publicly which of their beliefs or opinions disagree with the current cultural shifts because large groups of people have proven they will target you, try to get you fired, try to get SWAT called to your house, and other such stuff There is no upside to sharing potentially volatile political beliefs and some pretty serious potential downside And yes, a lot of that behavior is coming from people with very vocal leftist attitudes
      • poulsbohemian 3y ago
        >they used to vote for leftist parties, and now they think those parties don't represent what they want anymore Ah! It could be we are talking about slightly different demographic groups here… Gen Z types are not happy with the Democrats because they don’t see them as progressive enough. That is a real problem, and I suspect what could happen over the next decade is a party split like what’s happening in the Republicans - something like has already happened in Germany between SPD and Greens. In Germany, progressives 40+ still mostly vote SPD; their kids vote green. I see the same thing happening with democrats- my generation will mostly remain with the Ds, the younger people are less partisan and don’t understand why parties exist and thus they are eager for something different.
    • c_o_n_v_e_x 3y ago
      >what exactly are these radical leftist ideas that have taken hold of our politics? Embracing equity of outcome rather than equality of opportunity
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      • poulsbohemian 3y ago
        So propaganda directed at the left, rather than actual mainstream progressive policies?
    • carlosjobim 3y ago
      > Don’t mistake campaigning or messaging for actual party policy. Really? I've seen this my whole life from political rulers. They start campaigning for something outrageous that the people and their voters absolutely do not want. While at the same time saying that they don't really mean it and nothing is actually going to change. A few years later they have implemented the hated policy and say "Of course, we said we were going to do it from the beginning!". Drives me nuts that people fall for it every time. When politicians say they're going to do something awful, they will! You might even see yourself or your children sent to war.
  • Jimmc414 3y ago
    >How many Right-Wing beliefs could you hold 10 years ago that are remotely close to anything Left-wing today? Support for war, less support for body autonomy/ informed consent, Pro censorship?
  • CJefferson 2y ago
    Supporting abortion as the law of the land, and part of basic human rights?