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So much for the "last version of Windows we'll do" then. Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti w

So much for the "last version of Windows we'll do" then. Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti with an AMD card and start gaming on Linux. Seems the time has come to start evaluating.

kristofferg 3y ago
4090 works fine on Linux.
- pdimitar 3y ago
  Sure but, proprietary blob and all. Who knows what else is there. Going to Linux but still using a super-privileged driver that can extract almost anything out of my system and send it outside does not sound productive to me. Not that there's any guarantee there isn't something similar in the AMD drivers, open-source or not. But I'd like to think the community would notice at one point if that was true.
  - mgiampapa 3y ago
    I think that all depends on if someone finds 500ms of extra latency they can't explain.
slowbdotro 3y ago
Do it! Every day Linux is better and better than before, where as windows is... not so good. Sure there are edge cases like having to use Libre Office instead of Word, but just think of that $100/y saving you'll be having by switching! & Possibly even get a more responsive system!
- kristianp 3y ago
  I use word and excel via Playonlinux, a Wine front end.
  - coucoualpha 3y ago
    Wondering if Excel VBA Macro works with this ?
senectus1 3y ago
been playing on a 3070 quite happily on linux for the last year or so, on a dual boot win11/fedora box... but after i installed fedora i never booted into win11 again! Just forked out for a 4070 ti super so i toy with some AI stuff... when it arrives I'm doing a clean fresh build. Fedora only. no windows at home anymore. While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia
- piva00 3y ago
  > While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia Any source for this? I highly doubt a high end AMD GPU will draw 2-3kW of power.
  - senectus1 3y ago
    I wish i could find the nice charts I found when i was looking. but here: >Club386 specifically gave the example of the RX 7700 XT compared to the RTX 4070. The former is rated at 245W of power consumption versus the latter's 200W TGP. The RX 7700 XT also reportedly performs worse, targeting the RTX 4060 Ti. >https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-says-most-gamers-dont-care-about-gpu-power-consumption https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-says-most-gamers-dont-... Though looking at this, if you undervolt the AMD stuff it does a lot better https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-rx-7800-xt-underclock-versus-nvidia-rtx-4070/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-rx-7800-xt-under...
    - piva00 3y ago
      That's 245W vs 200W, 45W of difference, not even close to an order of magnitude more power draw...
mococa 3y ago
> start gaming on Linux I recently did this because Windows 11 was becoming increasingly cluttered with crapware and AI. I have an NVIDIA and chose Pop!_OS. I have a pretty large collection (https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz) and all the games I've tested work, even the recent releases. The only issue that sometimes occurs is some games defaulting to the lowest possible resolution instead of 4K, which is my desktop resolution. And Red Dead Redemption 2 had a crash on a mission that was resolved when I switched to the experimental version of Proton. Occasionally, I play StarCraft 1 and 2, and Diablo 2, and Lutris works perfectly for that. Besides, I personally find Pop!_OS to be a great distro.

kristofferg 3y ago

4090 works fine on Linux.

pdimitar 3y ago
Sure but, proprietary blob and all. Who knows what else is there. Going to Linux but still using a super-privileged driver that can extract almost anything out of my system and send it outside does not sound productive to me. Not that there's any guarantee there isn't something similar in the AMD drivers, open-source or not. But I'd like to think the community would notice at one point if that was true.
- mgiampapa 3y ago
  I think that all depends on if someone finds 500ms of extra latency they can't explain.

slowbdotro 3y ago

Do it! Every day Linux is better and better than before, where as windows is... not so good. Sure there are edge cases like having to use Libre Office instead of Word, but just think of that $100/y saving you'll be having by switching! & Possibly even get a more responsive system!

kristianp 3y ago
I use word and excel via Playonlinux, a Wine front end.
- coucoualpha 3y ago
  Wondering if Excel VBA Macro works with this ?

senectus1 3y ago

been playing on a 3070 quite happily on linux for the last year or so, on a dual boot win11/fedora box... but after i installed fedora i never booted into win11 again! Just forked out for a 4070 ti super so i toy with some AI stuff... when it arrives I'm doing a clean fresh build. Fedora only. no windows at home anymore. While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia

piva00 3y ago
> While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia Any source for this? I highly doubt a high end AMD GPU will draw 2-3kW of power.
- senectus1 3y ago
  I wish i could find the nice charts I found when i was looking. but here: >Club386 specifically gave the example of the RX 7700 XT compared to the RTX 4070. The former is rated at 245W of power consumption versus the latter's 200W TGP. The RX 7700 XT also reportedly performs worse, targeting the RTX 4060 Ti. >https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-says-most-gamers-dont-care-about-gpu-power-consumption https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-says-most-gamers-dont-... Though looking at this, if you undervolt the AMD stuff it does a lot better https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-rx-7800-xt-underclock-versus-nvidia-rtx-4070/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-rx-7800-xt-under...
  - piva00 3y ago
    That's 245W vs 200W, 45W of difference, not even close to an order of magnitude more power draw...

mococa 3y ago

> start gaming on Linux I recently did this because Windows 11 was becoming increasingly cluttered with crapware and AI. I have an NVIDIA and chose Pop!_OS. I have a pretty large collection (https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz) and all the games I've tested work, even the recent releases. The only issue that sometimes occurs is some games defaulting to the lowest possible resolution instead of 4K, which is my desktop resolution. And Red Dead Redemption 2 had a crash on a mission that was resolved when I switched to the experimental version of Proton. Occasionally, I play StarCraft 1 and 2, and Diablo 2, and Lutris works perfectly for that. Besides, I personally find Pop!_OS to be a great distro.