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> Literally everything I have cited has been a fact You have "literally" continued ignoring the evidence that your facts are wrong, e.g. about what Debs' six-m

> Literally everything I have cited has been a fact You have "literally" continued ignoring the evidence that your facts are wrong, e.g. about what Debs' six-month sentence was for (contempt of court, not for inciting violence). He was never convicted for conspiracy or inciting violence, because Pullman refused to testify. > locomotive they derailed was carrying US Mail aside from the pedantic fact that locomotives don't carry mail; mail cars do: The union consistently said that it didn't object to mail cars. It was having a Pullman car attached that was unacceptable. > wherever Debs went, violence followed! since he stayed in Chicago while violence was all over, that's certainly not "literally true."

somenameforme 3y ago
The contempt of court charge he was convicted of was for disobeying a court injunction to stop "ordering, directing, aiding, assisting, or abetting" the strikes, which had since turned increasingly violent and riotous! That is extremely noteworthy in a time when the courts were much more judicious, and Debs had the clout, influence, and connections expected of a high profile man and former state Congressman! Even overtly violent criminals like Al Capone were never able to be convicted of anything even indirectly related to violence. Also, I did not misspeak when I said locomotive. The rioters, after setting fire to buildings, did literally derail the entire locomotive. And this locomotive had a US mail car. Again you pay too much attention to words. You're completely right that the Union said they didn't object to anything except Pullman cars. They would have also said they don't support setting buildings on fire. Yet, a brief meeting with Debs and off goes his followers to set buildings on fire, derail entire locomotives - including those carrying US mail, and partaking in general hooliganism. This is yet more evidence of why words are utterly irrelevant.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  Once again you demonstrate how little you know about this. You are just a troll who wants attention. I'm sorry I've given you even this much, but that's all you're getting. Go away.

somenameforme 3y ago

The contempt of court charge he was convicted of was for disobeying a court injunction to stop "ordering, directing, aiding, assisting, or abetting" the strikes, which had since turned increasingly violent and riotous! That is extremely noteworthy in a time when the courts were much more judicious, and Debs had the clout, influence, and connections expected of a high profile man and former state Congressman! Even overtly violent criminals like Al Capone were never able to be convicted of anything even indirectly related to violence. Also, I did not misspeak when I said locomotive. The rioters, after setting fire to buildings, did literally derail the entire locomotive. And this locomotive had a US mail car. Again you pay too much attention to words. You're completely right that the Union said they didn't object to anything except Pullman cars. They would have also said they don't support setting buildings on fire. Yet, a brief meeting with Debs and off goes his followers to set buildings on fire, derail entire locomotives - including those carrying US mail, and partaking in general hooliganism. This is yet more evidence of why words are utterly irrelevant.

AlbertCory 3y ago
Once again you demonstrate how little you know about this. You are just a troll who wants attention. I'm sorry I've given you even this much, but that's all you're getting. Go away.