> And let's not consider optimistic goals as lying It's no longer "optimism" when you've been telling the same lie for 10 years: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/

> And let's not consider optimistic goals as lying It's no longer "optimism" when you've been telling the same lie for 10 years: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ His own self imposed deadlines were never met, even when he repeatedly changed them to new deadlines. Tesla's "full self-driving" is not and never has been full self-driving.