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I can see where you are coming from and once we have meaningful competitive alternatives to the AppStore (so after whatever they try in the EU with the platform

I can see where you are coming from and once we have meaningful competitive alternatives to the AppStore (so after whatever they try in the EU with the platform fee and related shenanigans is forced to switch to a sane model) we can make a judgement on that. Right now there is simply no way to know whether people are interested in the AppStore itself or simply selling to people who own iPhones (which is more likely but I may be wrong). If I were a high class furniture company and the developer building roughly half of the populations' homes could enforce that all furniture sold to their customers needs to be vetted and distributed by them, of course I would play by their rules and even sing their praise. Apples terms (all of them) are a direct result of their ability to stifle any competition on devices their customers paid them good money for. Nothing they do is problematic unless they are able to "my way or the highway" their rules on the hardware level. Apple dug too deeply and greedily and they woke up the sleeping regulatory giants which are now changing the rules.

lwkl 2y ago
We have a direct comparison on the desktop be it Windows or macOS and it is definitely harder to sell software there. The App Store and Play Store buying software a lot easier and increased the size of the market. Similar to Steam for PC games. But I also think that Apple should probably give developers better conditions. As a customer of Apple I selfishly prefer Apple continuing to extract service revenue from developers. Because their shareholders expect growth and that has to come somewhere and I don’t want to pay for it.
- lapcat 2y ago
  > We have a direct comparison on the desktop be it Windows or macOS and it is definitely harder to sell software there. How so? On desktop, the race to the bottom hasn't hit as hard, and customers are more willing to pay sustainable prices for software.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  > I don’t want to pay for it。 I don't get how you're not paying for it...assuming you're an iOS user, you bought apps and the devs passed on you the extra cost to pay Apple. Not counting for the ads you saw in the Store. You probably also bought extra space to backup your phone in iCloud, and as Apple is the only way for that. Litteraly anything you paid on the platform went first to Apple.

lwkl 2y ago

We have a direct comparison on the desktop be it Windows or macOS and it is definitely harder to sell software there. The App Store and Play Store buying software a lot easier and increased the size of the market. Similar to Steam for PC games. But I also think that Apple should probably give developers better conditions. As a customer of Apple I selfishly prefer Apple continuing to extract service revenue from developers. Because their shareholders expect growth and that has to come somewhere and I don’t want to pay for it.

lapcat 2y ago
> We have a direct comparison on the desktop be it Windows or macOS and it is definitely harder to sell software there. How so? On desktop, the race to the bottom hasn't hit as hard, and customers are more willing to pay sustainable prices for software.
makeitdouble 2y ago
> I don’t want to pay for it。 I don't get how you're not paying for it...assuming you're an iOS user, you bought apps and the devs passed on you the extra cost to pay Apple. Not counting for the ads you saw in the Store. You probably also bought extra space to backup your phone in iCloud, and as Apple is the only way for that. Litteraly anything you paid on the platform went first to Apple.