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We are excluding optimistic promises that weren't true, because it's completely different than outright lying about what you are working on
by arandomusername 3y ago
We are excluding optimistic promises that weren't true, because it's completely different than outright lying about what you are working on
- echoangle 3y agoWould you consider it lying if he made optimistic promises while knowing they were impossible?
- arandomusername 3y agoyes
- echoangle 3y agoSo you think that Elon seriously believed that Autopilot was coming the same year for 9 years or so in a row? If that wasn’t a total lie, he’s really stupid. He obviously knows that he’s wrong but still makes completely unrealistic predictions for hype/marketing reasons. That’s lying.
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- jrflowers 3y agoExactly. We are excluding his public statements about Tesla because
- mvdtnz 3y ago> We are excluding optimistic promises that weren't true You're excluding that. Most people do not, because he has a history of making wildly optimistic (to the point of completely unrealistic) "predictions" in order to froth up media attention and juice his company's value. Most people consider this a lie. You don't.
- jrflowers 3y agoarandomusername took the time to acknowledge a whole category of Musk’s statements that would be considered lies if we didn’t make a special excuse for them. The challenge here is “prove to me that he’s a liar within the framework of my own mind where I’ve declared him an honest man”