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All these places with super high housing prices because of supply issues? Maybe we need more, not less. Why wait for high quality housing, when we need somethin

by Weryj 3y ago

All these places with super high housing prices because of supply issues? Maybe we need more, not less. Why wait for high quality housing, when we need something to alleviate pressure now. At least give people the option to be function over form and save a buck. I mean, plain boiling water with Oats is a meal I eat a lot, but just because it's pretty tasteless, doesn't mean it's not an effective solution to hunger.

malermeister 3y ago
That is exactly the approach the Soviets took when they built these in the first place. They might get a bad rep these days, but commieblocks lifted out millions and millions of people from much worse circumstances.
- 48864w6ui 3y ago
  Thanks to the internet it's relatively easy to see what the alternative housing stock was; I too would have chosen cheap & cheerful, especially in a country where heating systems matter (the stove was often the show off piece of a Russian peasant's house).
- Muromec 3y ago
  You sadly miss the larger picture here. Why would soviets suddenly have a housing crisis that required shit-quality housing? Why don't we have commie-blocks district in Amsterdam? Worse circumstances were -- living in villages in their own houses, but that was against communist things. People had to live in public housing in a city and work in a factory, be mobile and be shuffled around whatever number of timezones and thousands of kilometers -- that was the whole point of ideology and was needed for industrialization too. Life in a village sucked by design too.
  - malermeister 3y ago
    Ummm. Because of WW2 and the Nazis waging a war of extermination on the Soviet population? Many cities were completely reduced to rubble, as were any villages that got in their way. Amsterdam still has their pretty Dutch Golden Age buildings because the war played out very differently there.
    - Muromec 3y ago
      That's not it. My hometown, which has slightly more population than Amsterdam, didn't suffer any damage to historical core during WW2 (so we have our pretty theater and low-key fancy 19th century houses), yet grew a massive multi-tier commie-block suburbs and incorporated surrounding villages with their owner-occupied single-story houses. In between those suburbs. Soviets squeezed people into the cities and then gave them bare minimum housing there, yet people seem to prize them for it, while diverting all the resources from villages.

by Weryj 3y ago

malermeister 3y ago

That is exactly the approach the Soviets took when they built these in the first place. They might get a bad rep these days, but commieblocks lifted out millions and millions of people from much worse circumstances.

48864w6ui 3y ago
Thanks to the internet it's relatively easy to see what the alternative housing stock was; I too would have chosen cheap & cheerful, especially in a country where heating systems matter (the stove was often the show off piece of a Russian peasant's house).
Muromec 3y ago
You sadly miss the larger picture here. Why would soviets suddenly have a housing crisis that required shit-quality housing? Why don't we have commie-blocks district in Amsterdam? Worse circumstances were -- living in villages in their own houses, but that was against communist things. People had to live in public housing in a city and work in a factory, be mobile and be shuffled around whatever number of timezones and thousands of kilometers -- that was the whole point of ideology and was needed for industrialization too. Life in a village sucked by design too.
- malermeister 3y ago
  Ummm. Because of WW2 and the Nazis waging a war of extermination on the Soviet population? Many cities were completely reduced to rubble, as were any villages that got in their way. Amsterdam still has their pretty Dutch Golden Age buildings because the war played out very differently there.
  - Muromec 3y ago
    That's not it. My hometown, which has slightly more population than Amsterdam, didn't suffer any damage to historical core during WW2 (so we have our pretty theater and low-key fancy 19th century houses), yet grew a massive multi-tier commie-block suburbs and incorporated surrounding villages with their owner-occupied single-story houses. In between those suburbs. Soviets squeezed people into the cities and then gave them bare minimum housing there, yet people seem to prize them for it, while diverting all the resources from villages.