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> The key words are “might” and “could.”
by nabla9 3y ago
> The key words are “might” and “could.”
- readthenotes1 3y agoWhich also apply to dark {energy, matter}, the flying spaghetti monster of cosmology...
- nabla9 3y agoIncorrect.
- hgtresd 3y agoScientists: our calculations are consistently and dramatically different than our observations, even when accounting for every externality we can imagine, there must be something that we are unable to probe that accounts for this disparity, let’s call it dark energy Lay people: science says the universe is mostly dark energy spewed from the maw of the dark beast Scientists: with better instrumentation and modeling it appears we may have identified what we got wrong originally about dark energy Lay people: but we already knew the dark lords are known for their treachery and deceit You: science and religion are the same
- wussboy 3y agoNailed it.
- readthenotes1 3y agoNot quite. Scientists: we got something we can't explain. let's make something up for which we have no evidence other than there's stuff we can't explain. We'll keep pondering whether we can figure out how to detect what we just made up because we got nothing so far. Theologian: we got something we can't explain. let's make something up for which we have no evidence other than there's stuff we can't explain. Me: both have faith in their models
- chuckadams 3y agoAs someone wittier than me said, “I’d rather have questions I can’t answer than answers I can’t question.”
- hgtresd 3y agoIt should be noted that I only dragged religion into the discussion because of the “flying spaghetti monster” analogy which is a reference to a famous atheist’s mocking of religion. That said, concepts like faith and belief are wholly independent of religion. So if you want to denounce religion from your critical reasoning it is unnecessary to claim you also denounce the concept of “faith”. How can anyone do anything without faith? Why are getting in that vehicle? I have faith/believe it will take me to my destination. Why are you fastening your seatbelt? I have faith/believe in the science that shows it will provide protection in the event of a collision.
- pixelsort 3y agoDo not from faith that which can be had more readily by way of resignation, apathy, or indifference. Faith is just their fragile cousin.
- tichiian 3y agoTrue, both use a filler name like "god" or "dark energy" for gaps in understanding they cannot explain. But the big difference is: Scientists are happy about "dark energy" being explained away and made superfluous. The filler being smaller or vanishing is progress. A scientist's job is to fill the gaps with proper explanations. Theologians are the opposite, the filler is their whole reason and purpose. If you take away the filler by providing proper explanations, theologians will resist in any way possible. Progress for them is sowing doubt on all scientific explanations and spreading the influence of their filler on everything.
- datavirtue 3y agoIt's what Jesus would have wanted.
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- naikrovek 3y ago> Which also apply to dark {energy, matter}, the flying spaghetti monster of cosmology... they are both very real, as they are both known to us because of direct and indirect observation. i don't understand the "dark matter isn't real" crowd, because it is very much real, and we observe it. we can measure it. we don't know what it is comprised of, but we know it's real.