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It's not the AI lying about the date, it's about the people using the content. One big problem is that Google also lies about dates when you do a 'before' sear

It's not the AI lying about the date, it's about the people using the content. One big problem is that Google also lies about dates when you do a 'before' search, so AI spam still shows up even if you filter it out. Scraping a new dataset without contaminated content is impossible now. There's no authoritative source on the age of any given website. (You can try places like the Internet Archive, but most such archivers aren't interested in handing their data over to AI firms because of the bad PR.) The only way to ensure you don't have AI content is to use a dataset created before ~2021-2022. This too is hard because all the big ones are illegal to posses as they contain CSAM. The real answer is that AI developers played themselves. Humanity was creating exponentially more data each year, and by rushing these AI tools out the door, all that data is useless now. By the end of this year there'll be more new "AI-polluted" data on the web made after 2021 than the total amount of "clean" data made up to 2021.

Solvency 3y ago
I don't buy this take for a second. You honestly don't think Google has a VAST and complete trove of time-stamped data scraped and indexed from decades of its existence. You don't have access to it. But they do.
- lupire 3y ago
  People care a lot more about current events than past events.
- withinboredom 3y ago
  In my experience, indicies tend to trust the date in the article more than the date it was discovered. That’s also how some people fight bad press: copy an article verbatim, set the date to the day before, file takedown notice for theft of content. By the time the actual content comes back up, it won’t matter.
ancientworldnow 3y ago
AI training doesn't care anymore. Huge amounts of it now are intentionally created synthetic data made by LLM's to generate data to train bigger LLM's. The larger the model, the less it matters.

Solvency 3y ago

I don't buy this take for a second. You honestly don't think Google has a VAST and complete trove of time-stamped data scraped and indexed from decades of its existence. You don't have access to it. But they do.

lupire 3y ago
People care a lot more about current events than past events.
withinboredom 3y ago
In my experience, indicies tend to trust the date in the article more than the date it was discovered. That’s also how some people fight bad press: copy an article verbatim, set the date to the day before, file takedown notice for theft of content. By the time the actual content comes back up, it won’t matter.

ancientworldnow 3y ago

AI training doesn't care anymore. Huge amounts of it now are intentionally created synthetic data made by LLM's to generate data to train bigger LLM's. The larger the model, the less it matters.