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> similar to the edu network in the US Presumably you mean Eduroam? It's global, the Americans were actually (as with so many things) late to adopt, but it wor

> similar to the edu network in the US Presumably you mean Eduroam? It's global, the Americans were actually (as with so many things) late to adopt, but it works just as well for a student from Edinburgh to use WiFi in Waikato (New Zealand) as for a student from Tokyo to use WiFi in Harvard (Mass).

lxgr 3y ago
Importantly, these are all (to my knowledge) tertiary education institutions, i.e. people eligible for Eduroam access are adults. Very different domain.
- tialaramex 3y ago
  Although historically Eduroam, like Internet access itself, began at research institutions and where they do tertiary education, there's nothing stopping a K12 from having Eduroam. They need to be able to tie all the Eduroam enabled account credentials to specific humans so that when the University of Plymouth says "This user was downloading porn videos and that's not OK by our usage policy" you can tie that to 15 year old Steve Smith in class 8F and tell him to use his WiFi network at home to watch porn. But it's not about adulthood, universities have always had a small number of non-adult students, acting "in loco parentis" to try to keep them out of harm's way as much as real parents likely would for a teenager. Eduroam doesn't care what your country says about majority, ages of responsibility etc. it just wants to tie every user to a member institution via an NREN.
  - lxgr 3y ago
    > Eduroam doesn't care what your country says about majority, ages of responsibility etc. Oh, I'm not saying that this was an explicit design goal of Eduroam, but I strongly suspect that there would be a whole new set of challenges the organizations running it might not be prepared for if they were to extend it to K12. Your customer base heavily influences the types of issues people might try to hold you responsible for, whether it's reasonable or not.
    - tialaramex 3y ago
      I think you're talking about this as a hypothetical, but it's been a reality for some time. My understanding is that US states began rolling this out a few years ago.

lxgr 3y ago

Importantly, these are all (to my knowledge) tertiary education institutions, i.e. people eligible for Eduroam access are adults. Very different domain.

tialaramex 3y ago
Although historically Eduroam, like Internet access itself, began at research institutions and where they do tertiary education, there's nothing stopping a K12 from having Eduroam. They need to be able to tie all the Eduroam enabled account credentials to specific humans so that when the University of Plymouth says "This user was downloading porn videos and that's not OK by our usage policy" you can tie that to 15 year old Steve Smith in class 8F and tell him to use his WiFi network at home to watch porn. But it's not about adulthood, universities have always had a small number of non-adult students, acting "in loco parentis" to try to keep them out of harm's way as much as real parents likely would for a teenager. Eduroam doesn't care what your country says about majority, ages of responsibility etc. it just wants to tie every user to a member institution via an NREN.
- lxgr 3y ago
  > Eduroam doesn't care what your country says about majority, ages of responsibility etc. Oh, I'm not saying that this was an explicit design goal of Eduroam, but I strongly suspect that there would be a whole new set of challenges the organizations running it might not be prepared for if they were to extend it to K12. Your customer base heavily influences the types of issues people might try to hold you responsible for, whether it's reasonable or not.
  - tialaramex 3y ago
    I think you're talking about this as a hypothetical, but it's been a reality for some time. My understanding is that US states began rolling this out a few years ago.