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The use case is for dedicated game servers controlled by the developer running in data centers, not clients running on player's home computers.

Galanwe 2y ago
If we're talking server tech then why does the article claim that 10gbps is becoming retail commodity? 10,40 and 100gbps is already the baseline for servers since a decade, I have not seen a server with 1gbps NICs for anything else than remote management or off band communication in a decade. If it's for servers then the article still doesn't make any sense. See my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39939876 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39939876
- gafferongames 2y ago
  CableLabs.com, the creators of the DOCSIS standard for cable modems are part of an industry wide push towards 10G internet for ISPs. According to Neilsen's law, we should see 10G internet become more common than 1G internet is today within 10 years. https://www.cablelabs.com/10g https://www.cablelabs.com/10g https://www.nngroup.com/articles/law-of-bandwidth/ https://www.nngroup.com/articles/law-of-bandwidth/
  - eqvinox 2y ago
    You're mixing server and client use cases. And you're looking at a gaussian distribution. And DOCSIS is a shared medium. Most of the world doesn't even have 100M internet: https://www.speedtest.net/global-index https://www.speedtest.net/global-index By the time your game can use even 1G per client, XDP won't even be helpful for 100G. (Which, depending on use case, it already isn't.)
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    - gafferongames 2y ago
      I repeat: According to Neilsen's law, we should see 10G internet become more common than 1G internet is today within 10 years. That's a cool thing. Let's look forward to it, and the rising tide that lifts all boats. The world will be a much more connected place 10 years from now, and the 10G target from CableLabs.com as well as DSCP packet tagging, L4S and other technologies will make the internet a lot better than it is today. Why the negativity. Embrace the future :)

Galanwe 2y ago

If we're talking server tech then why does the article claim that 10gbps is becoming retail commodity? 10,40 and 100gbps is already the baseline for servers since a decade, I have not seen a server with 1gbps NICs for anything else than remote management or off band communication in a decade. If it's for servers then the article still doesn't make any sense. See my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39939876 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39939876

gafferongames 2y ago
CableLabs.com, the creators of the DOCSIS standard for cable modems are part of an industry wide push towards 10G internet for ISPs. According to Neilsen's law, we should see 10G internet become more common than 1G internet is today within 10 years. https://www.cablelabs.com/10g https://www.cablelabs.com/10g https://www.nngroup.com/articles/law-of-bandwidth/ https://www.nngroup.com/articles/law-of-bandwidth/
- eqvinox 2y ago
  You're mixing server and client use cases. And you're looking at a gaussian distribution. And DOCSIS is a shared medium. Most of the world doesn't even have 100M internet: https://www.speedtest.net/global-index https://www.speedtest.net/global-index By the time your game can use even 1G per client, XDP won't even be helpful for 100G. (Which, depending on use case, it already isn't.)
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  - gafferongames 2y ago
    I repeat: According to Neilsen's law, we should see 10G internet become more common than 1G internet is today within 10 years. That's a cool thing. Let's look forward to it, and the rising tide that lifts all boats. The world will be a much more connected place 10 years from now, and the 10G target from CableLabs.com as well as DSCP packet tagging, L4S and other technologies will make the internet a lot better than it is today. Why the negativity. Embrace the future :)