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These are Apple notarized apps. As with macOS, they still have to both be signed and go through some verification , but they don’t apply any of the other App St
by dagmx 3y ago
These are Apple notarized apps. As with macOS, they still have to both be signed and go through some verification , but they don’t apply any of the other App Store rules to it.
- themoonisachees 3y agoWell, except that they do. TFA says that the clipboard app in question had to include a map because it requires a dirty workaround to stay active in the background, at apple's demands. Yes, they're not "app store rules" and they're "notarization rules" but the end result is the same, they could choose to make those rules the same and yeah maybe a European court could force them to comply but in reality land apple has more money and lawyers than god.
- dagmx 3y agoYou’re conflating two things. There’s App Store rules and then there’s system rules (security, multitasking etc). The DMA only side steps the former not the latter. The issue in the article is the latter.
- themoonisachees 3y agoSure, but as long as apple will play hardball like they're clearly doing, they could very well enforce app store rules as app signing rules and it'd be years before the eu would force them to stop, not even counting on the fact that current app signing rules are already insane.
- nottorp 3y ago> go through some verification Yep. "Some" verification. Random and arbitrary as Apple's verification is known to be. How many times have you read about a dev who had an app rejected, resubmitted it with no changes and had it approved? How many times have you read about rejections without a clear motive and any further explanation?
- dagmx 3y agoAnd how many times have you heard about someone rejected from notorization? It’s been a thing for years now on Mac with many, many notarized apps.
- nottorp 3y agoThere's an example right in the article?
- dagmx 3y agoWhich one? I see no mention of Apple blocking notarization of the app.
- nottorp 3y agoWhatever app had to add a ... map?
- dagmx 3y agoThat has nothing to do with notarization though. That’s just system rules. iOS restricts what apps can run in the background based on their capabilities.
- nottorp 3y agoDid it do anything useful for the user yes/no? Was it rejected by Apple because it didn't fit the usage patterns they could think of in Cupertino yes/no?
- dagmx 3y agoAt this point, it’s clear you’re not even trying to understand the difference between the following 1. App Store rules 2. Notarization of apps outside the App Store 3. System rules like security and task scheduling They are independent concerns. You’re conflating the limitations of the third point and blaming it on the first two.