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And Europe isn't free if I want to own a gun. See, I can also do a single-factor analysis and come out ahead!

lm28469 3y ago
In many eu countries you can get a suppressor much more easily than in the US, also you can own guns (handgun, shotguns, rifles, semi autos) in most places and carry guns in a lot of them if you have a reason to
- rpmisms 3y ago
  Suppressors, absolutely true. Owning guns is a different story. In the US, it's actually easy to do. Austria and the Czech Republic are the closest to US average, and it's still significantly harder. Also, most of the US has permitless carry. If you can own the gun, you can carry it, period.
cromka 3y ago
Neither is NYC, Philadelphia or Chicago! Meanwhile you can easily get a gun in Scandinavia or Switzerland or Czechia. Not a good example, to be honest.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  NYC is the only city on that list with any real restrictions. Much easier on Philly than any European country, and the European countries are still tougher than NYC.
- closewith 3y ago
  > Meanwhile you can easily get a gun in Scandinavia or Switzerland or Czechia. Easily is doing a lot of work in that sentence.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    It goes like this: fill in a form, get a certificate from the police saying you are a person in good standing, buy a gun.
Kipters 3y ago
We can own guns, we just don't want nor need to.
ownagefool 3y ago
Whilst true, Europeans do have more freedoms around not getting shot. :p That's the thing about a framework of freedoms. In anarchy, the strong will subjugate the weak, and thus only the strong are free. Thus if we want to protect your right to not be shot, we need to prohibit someones right to shoot you, and in some societies that extends to your right to bare arms with actual positive outcomes behind it.
- rakoo 3y ago
  > In anarchy, the strong will subjugate the weak, and thus only the strong are free. Th'at's not anarchy, that's libertarianism: maximal individual freedom at the expense of others. Coincidentally the system propelled by all big tech moguls, and half of the us political scene. Anarchy is not the absence of rules, it is the absence of hierarchy. Contrary to what we have been fed since we were born, we don't need a hierarchy to function. Anarchy is the understanding that no human is above any other, and that we cannot live alone so we're just going to live together, agree together on rules, democratically (some say the only true democracy where everyone can express themselves on all topics and decisions are taken based on this) and with the collective wellness and joy as the compass.
trosi 3y ago
You could have cited a hundred valid examples to make your point. You picked a stupid one.
guappa 3y ago
I know several people who own hunting rifles.
- arethuza 3y ago
  A significant proportion of the land in the small European country where I live is owned and managed primarily to allow people to shoot things (grouse and deer).
- rpmisms 3y ago
  I know several children who own hunting rifles.

In many eu countries you can get a suppressor much more easily than in the US, also you can own guns (handgun, shotguns, rifles, semi autos) in most places and carry guns in a lot of them if you have a reason to

rpmisms 3y ago
Suppressors, absolutely true. Owning guns is a different story. In the US, it's actually easy to do. Austria and the Czech Republic are the closest to US average, and it's still significantly harder. Also, most of the US has permitless carry. If you can own the gun, you can carry it, period.

cromka 3y ago

Neither is NYC, Philadelphia or Chicago! Meanwhile you can easily get a gun in Scandinavia or Switzerland or Czechia. Not a good example, to be honest.

rpmisms 3y ago
NYC is the only city on that list with any real restrictions. Much easier on Philly than any European country, and the European countries are still tougher than NYC.
closewith 3y ago
> Meanwhile you can easily get a gun in Scandinavia or Switzerland or Czechia. Easily is doing a lot of work in that sentence.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  It goes like this: fill in a form, get a certificate from the police saying you are a person in good standing, buy a gun.

Kipters 3y ago

We can own guns, we just don't want nor need to.

ownagefool 3y ago

Whilst true, Europeans do have more freedoms around not getting shot. :p That's the thing about a framework of freedoms. In anarchy, the strong will subjugate the weak, and thus only the strong are free. Thus if we want to protect your right to not be shot, we need to prohibit someones right to shoot you, and in some societies that extends to your right to bare arms with actual positive outcomes behind it.

rakoo 3y ago
> In anarchy, the strong will subjugate the weak, and thus only the strong are free. Th'at's not anarchy, that's libertarianism: maximal individual freedom at the expense of others. Coincidentally the system propelled by all big tech moguls, and half of the us political scene. Anarchy is not the absence of rules, it is the absence of hierarchy. Contrary to what we have been fed since we were born, we don't need a hierarchy to function. Anarchy is the understanding that no human is above any other, and that we cannot live alone so we're just going to live together, agree together on rules, democratically (some say the only true democracy where everyone can express themselves on all topics and decisions are taken based on this) and with the collective wellness and joy as the compass.

trosi 3y ago

You could have cited a hundred valid examples to make your point. You picked a stupid one.

guappa 3y ago

I know several people who own hunting rifles.

arethuza 3y ago
A significant proportion of the land in the small European country where I live is owned and managed primarily to allow people to shoot things (grouse and deer).
rpmisms 3y ago
I know several children who own hunting rifles.