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A PCIe 7.0 x4 NVMe Drive would give ~64GB/s. I am not sure if we could unlock any new paradigm with it. But in terms of Gaming even with hardware compression th

by ksec 3y ago

A PCIe 7.0 x4 NVMe Drive would give ~64GB/s. I am not sure if we could unlock any new paradigm with it. But in terms of Gaming even with hardware compression the PS5 with 8GB/s already spends 95%+ of its time in CPU. Or are we going to do heavy Paging and stick with 8GB of RAM. My Mac currently does about 200-500GB write per day simply due to Kernel_Task Paging from Safari. Both the SSD Controller and NAND will continue to get cheaper and faster. While Production Cost of GB on DRAM hasn't moved much.

sph 3y ago
The thing that strikes me the most any time there's such a technologically jump is that, judging by the past 30 years, it is very likely that the most common apps, such as Chrome or Microsoft Office, will require these 64 GB/s NVMe drives to work correctly in a decade or so. We will look back at our meagre 4 GB/s NVMe of today as old junk. I truly wonder what abomination will we create to require that much disk bandwidth in 10 years to run a web browser.
- internet101010 3y ago
  A new React component
  - TheTxT 3y ago
    Maybe we could have react components containing other frameworks. So you could use all the JavaScript frameworks for the most simple landing page.
  - sph 3y ago
    Chrome pushing for their future WebAI standard, which will allow people to write extremely advanced AGI systems... in pure Javascript. People are concerned about Bitcoin's energy usage, and do not stop to think how many cycles and joules are wasted running the world, very slowly and inefficiently, on Javascript.
- pdimitar 3y ago
  > We will look back at our meagre 4 GB/s NVMe of today as old junk. Nah, I don't think so. There is a natural resistance against the newer more expensive machines. The non-tech people largely started looking on the area as always chasing the new shinies, and they are absolutely correct. I as a programmer, had to replace my gaming PC last year because the old one (which was 11 year old) had its motherboard give up. And I settled for 5600x with 1080 Ti and DDR4 RAM and a 4-7 GB/s NVMe SSD. Some of the more demanding games struggle because the GPU is old but outside of that that machine is impressively and hugely powerful. Even in those games it still keeps 45-60 FPS just fine. I would want to get a better GPU but honestly, the price jump from a 1080 Ti all the way to the 3070 and beyond is just insane and I can't justify it. I am gaming something like 4h a week, 12h in rare cases, usually about 6h. I really don't see the draw of all these innovations. Servers, surely, okay, but even for workstations I'd think we are much more in a need of machines with more memory channels -- that the Threadripper Pro stations offer -- and not RAM and SSDs that go into the higher double-digits of GB bandwidth. It's very obvious that most programmer tooling is not making full use of hardware resources. You have to go as low as a Celeron J CPU to actually see programmer tooling monopolize your machine. Even i3 CPUs and old Ryzens are flying. Unless you are crunching data all day every day then a normal NVMe SSD that tops at 7 GB/s during sequential bursts but is otherwise working stably at 2 GB/s, is good enough and then some more.
lmeyerov 3y ago
With GDS, we get to skip the CPU and go straight to parallel arrays of network/ssd cards, where 100GB/s is very doable We don't have a lot of our customers doing that yet... but they're definitely some of the more fun ones!

by ksec 3y ago

sph 3y ago

The thing that strikes me the most any time there's such a technologically jump is that, judging by the past 30 years, it is very likely that the most common apps, such as Chrome or Microsoft Office, will require these 64 GB/s NVMe drives to work correctly in a decade or so. We will look back at our meagre 4 GB/s NVMe of today as old junk. I truly wonder what abomination will we create to require that much disk bandwidth in 10 years to run a web browser.

internet101010 3y ago
A new React component
- TheTxT 3y ago
  Maybe we could have react components containing other frameworks. So you could use all the JavaScript frameworks for the most simple landing page.
- sph 3y ago
  Chrome pushing for their future WebAI standard, which will allow people to write extremely advanced AGI systems... in pure Javascript. People are concerned about Bitcoin's energy usage, and do not stop to think how many cycles and joules are wasted running the world, very slowly and inefficiently, on Javascript.
pdimitar 3y ago
> We will look back at our meagre 4 GB/s NVMe of today as old junk. Nah, I don't think so. There is a natural resistance against the newer more expensive machines. The non-tech people largely started looking on the area as always chasing the new shinies, and they are absolutely correct. I as a programmer, had to replace my gaming PC last year because the old one (which was 11 year old) had its motherboard give up. And I settled for 5600x with 1080 Ti and DDR4 RAM and a 4-7 GB/s NVMe SSD. Some of the more demanding games struggle because the GPU is old but outside of that that machine is impressively and hugely powerful. Even in those games it still keeps 45-60 FPS just fine. I would want to get a better GPU but honestly, the price jump from a 1080 Ti all the way to the 3070 and beyond is just insane and I can't justify it. I am gaming something like 4h a week, 12h in rare cases, usually about 6h. I really don't see the draw of all these innovations. Servers, surely, okay, but even for workstations I'd think we are much more in a need of machines with more memory channels -- that the Threadripper Pro stations offer -- and not RAM and SSDs that go into the higher double-digits of GB bandwidth. It's very obvious that most programmer tooling is not making full use of hardware resources. You have to go as low as a Celeron J CPU to actually see programmer tooling monopolize your machine. Even i3 CPUs and old Ryzens are flying. Unless you are crunching data all day every day then a normal NVMe SSD that tops at 7 GB/s during sequential bursts but is otherwise working stably at 2 GB/s, is good enough and then some more.

lmeyerov 3y ago

With GDS, we get to skip the CPU and go straight to parallel arrays of network/ssd cards, where 100GB/s is very doable We don't have a lot of our customers doing that yet... but they're definitely some of the more fun ones!