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that it's taken this long for an iOS clipboard manager (using obvious SDK controls) is nutty.

gnyman 3y ago
Agree, and the fact that apple can still enforce an obviously inefficient and stupid workaround is even nuttier. > The first version I tried used the user’s location to remain active, but was rejected by Apple. Testut then updated Clip with a Map feature — so there’s a reason for the app to remain active in the background — to receive approval. Yes, I'll admit that I prefer some limitations on background processes in order to preserve my battery. But apple is not doing that, instead they allow it but only after the app adds some pretend functionality which makes the user experience worse for everyone. And let's think about how many pointless background processes they themselves have added over the years, it seems that every patch level there is a bunch more.
- nickburns 3y ago
  they allow it but only after the app adds some pretend functionality which makes the user experience worse for everyone. or nefariously worse. how curious that "verification" is extended only after the app implements a location 'ping', which is inevitably reported to or observed by the system. the more i think about it, i honestly wonder if it hasn't taken this long because Apple's been reluctant to reveal and therefore open up to public scrutiny any sense of what the system does with clipboard functionality and/or its contents 'behind the scenes.'
nickpp 3y ago
The fact that I don't have to worry if the newfangled clipboard manager my grandma was tricked into installing is sending the passwords she is copy&paste-ing to a server in China is wonderful.
- nickburns 3y ago
  consider grandparental controls for your nan. much better to have control than give it up. good god man, help her!
  - nickpp 3y ago
    I have parental control for my children and they sidestep it every day. Suggesting that to my nan would get my ass kicked.
- jamil7 3y ago
  It seems like "think of the grandmas" is the new "think of the children" line.
  - Rinzler89 3y ago
    I wish people using the Grandma argument for security would provide some statistics on how many grandmas got hacked and robbed from side loading android apps before trying to die on that hill for Apple.
    - cjk2 3y ago
      Both my father and my mother got their banks ripped off by keyloggers on both an android handset and a windows computer separate occasions. They have been divorced for 30 years and do not even live near or speak to each other. The only thing that keeps them safe these days is iOS.
      - Rinzler89 3y ago
        That sounds terrible indeed, I'm sorry to hear that, but anecdotes don't make a statistic. For example my parents had always been tech illiterate android and windows users and never got hacked or robbed online. >The only thing that keeps them safe these days is iOS. BS. If a resourceful and motivated actor wants to phish your credentials they can do it even if you use iOS as well. They can call you and impersonate your bank. They don't need to get privilege escalation on your phone's OS.
        nickpp 3y ago
        Have you actually seen how a wide-open computing device looks like in regular person's hands?! Those IE instances full of "punch the monkey" toolbars were not just a meme, you know. I moved my family from Windows to Linux and then iPads as soon as I could. I still encounter hacks (iOS's calendar for some reason is vulnerable to appointments from spam emails) but it's incomparable to how it was before.

Agree, and the fact that apple can still enforce an obviously inefficient and stupid workaround is even nuttier. > The first version I tried used the user’s location to remain active, but was rejected by Apple. Testut then updated Clip with a Map feature — so there’s a reason for the app to remain active in the background — to receive approval. Yes, I'll admit that I prefer some limitations on background processes in order to preserve my battery. But apple is not doing that, instead they allow it but only after the app adds some pretend functionality which makes the user experience worse for everyone. And let's think about how many pointless background processes they themselves have added over the years, it seems that every patch level there is a bunch more.

nickburns 3y ago
they allow it but only after the app adds some pretend functionality which makes the user experience worse for everyone. or nefariously worse. how curious that "verification" is extended only after the app implements a location 'ping', which is inevitably reported to or observed by the system. the more i think about it, i honestly wonder if it hasn't taken this long because Apple's been reluctant to reveal and therefore open up to public scrutiny any sense of what the system does with clipboard functionality and/or its contents 'behind the scenes.'

nickpp 3y ago

The fact that I don't have to worry if the newfangled clipboard manager my grandma was tricked into installing is sending the passwords she is copy&paste-ing to a server in China is wonderful.

nickburns 3y ago
consider grandparental controls for your nan. much better to have control than give it up. good god man, help her!
- nickpp 3y ago
  I have parental control for my children and they sidestep it every day. Suggesting that to my nan would get my ass kicked.
jamil7 3y ago
It seems like "think of the grandmas" is the new "think of the children" line.
- Rinzler89 3y ago
  I wish people using the Grandma argument for security would provide some statistics on how many grandmas got hacked and robbed from side loading android apps before trying to die on that hill for Apple.
  - cjk2 3y ago
    Both my father and my mother got their banks ripped off by keyloggers on both an android handset and a windows computer separate occasions. They have been divorced for 30 years and do not even live near or speak to each other. The only thing that keeps them safe these days is iOS.
    - Rinzler89 3y ago
      That sounds terrible indeed, I'm sorry to hear that, but anecdotes don't make a statistic. For example my parents had always been tech illiterate android and windows users and never got hacked or robbed online. >The only thing that keeps them safe these days is iOS. BS. If a resourceful and motivated actor wants to phish your credentials they can do it even if you use iOS as well. They can call you and impersonate your bank. They don't need to get privilege escalation on your phone's OS.
      - nickpp 3y ago
        Have you actually seen how a wide-open computing device looks like in regular person's hands?! Those IE instances full of "punch the monkey" toolbars were not just a meme, you know. I moved my family from Windows to Linux and then iPads as soon as I could. I still encounter hacks (iOS's calendar for some reason is vulnerable to appointments from spam emails) but it's incomparable to how it was before.