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two cups of coffee from Starbucks

Fnoord 2y ago
I just don't get these coffee comparisons. I don't know about you but I get free coffee at work on location, and at home the coffee is reasonably good that a Starbucks is not worth it.
- ninjamuffin99 2y ago
  To explain the coffee comparisons, people like to buy coffee as a daily expense around the 3-5$. not exclusively starbucks, but it is a part of many people’s routines. so its a useful frame of reference for most people. hope this helps
- OJFord 2y ago
  Well at home you get the coffee from somewhere, compare to that? I buy a bag of I think 250g beans for £7.95 (about $10 I suppose, conveniently) and without travel I probably get through at least four bags in a month. That's much more coffee that Kagi costs than if I was getting it at Starbucks, but it still puts it in perspective I think. (And the coffee tastes much better.)
- non-chalad 2y ago
  It's about 2 bunches of Bananas (4) 4. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000711211 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000711211
  - Fnoord 2y ago
    Ha! We buy bananas every week, my daughter and I love them. 2 bunches of bananas cost 3,10 EUR [1] 2 bunches of organic, fairtrade bananas cost 4,38 EUR [2] Since AFAIK there is one genus I just buy the regular ones. Since we eat one bunch of bananas a week, it is about 6,4 weeks of bananas. My bananas come from South-America. They have to travel further than the ones going to North-America. So they should be cheaper at your place (US?). Then again, you pay nothing for gas, so it evens out :P [1] https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi197393/ah-bananen-tros https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi197393/ah-bananen-tros [2] https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi368480/ah-biologisch-fairtrade-bananen https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi368480/ah-biologisch-f...
    - OJFord 2y ago
      > Since AFAIK there is one genus I just buy the regular ones. That's correct, but neither 'organic' nor 'fairtrade' means that it would be a different (better) variety. Organic = not sprayed with chemicals for pest control for example; fairtrade = farm hands not paid exploitative rates (paid more). (Not that I'm preaching you should care about either more, I'm a fairly price-driven shopper.)
      - OJFord 2y ago
        In fact ceteris paribus in general you could argue you might expect that organic variety to be worse for taste, since pest/disease resistance has played a larger role in its selection. I'm not sure that actually works in practice though, because ceteris never is paribus, it commands a premium, it's a somehow more discerning shopper perhaps/on average, so it's more worth choosing a nice tasting/attractive variety vs. the regular one selected for yield.

I just don't get these coffee comparisons. I don't know about you but I get free coffee at work on location, and at home the coffee is reasonably good that a Starbucks is not worth it.

ninjamuffin99 2y ago
To explain the coffee comparisons, people like to buy coffee as a daily expense around the 3-5$. not exclusively starbucks, but it is a part of many people’s routines. so its a useful frame of reference for most people. hope this helps
OJFord 2y ago
Well at home you get the coffee from somewhere, compare to that? I buy a bag of I think 250g beans for £7.95 (about $10 I suppose, conveniently) and without travel I probably get through at least four bags in a month. That's much more coffee that Kagi costs than if I was getting it at Starbucks, but it still puts it in perspective I think. (And the coffee tastes much better.)
non-chalad 2y ago
It's about 2 bunches of Bananas (4) 4. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000711211 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000711211
- Fnoord 2y ago
  Ha! We buy bananas every week, my daughter and I love them. 2 bunches of bananas cost 3,10 EUR [1] 2 bunches of organic, fairtrade bananas cost 4,38 EUR [2] Since AFAIK there is one genus I just buy the regular ones. Since we eat one bunch of bananas a week, it is about 6,4 weeks of bananas. My bananas come from South-America. They have to travel further than the ones going to North-America. So they should be cheaper at your place (US?). Then again, you pay nothing for gas, so it evens out :P [1] https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi197393/ah-bananen-tros https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi197393/ah-bananen-tros [2] https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi368480/ah-biologisch-fairtrade-bananen https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi368480/ah-biologisch-f...
  - OJFord 2y ago
    > Since AFAIK there is one genus I just buy the regular ones. That's correct, but neither 'organic' nor 'fairtrade' means that it would be a different (better) variety. Organic = not sprayed with chemicals for pest control for example; fairtrade = farm hands not paid exploitative rates (paid more). (Not that I'm preaching you should care about either more, I'm a fairly price-driven shopper.)
    - OJFord 2y ago
      In fact ceteris paribus in general you could argue you might expect that organic variety to be worse for taste, since pest/disease resistance has played a larger role in its selection. I'm not sure that actually works in practice though, because ceteris never is paribus, it commands a premium, it's a somehow more discerning shopper perhaps/on average, so it's more worth choosing a nice tasting/attractive variety vs. the regular one selected for yield.