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The U.S. government is losing trust in Microsoft

39 points by tim_sw 3y ago

sam_goody 3y ago
> The U.S. government is losing trust in Microsoft ie... there is no honor among thieves
- hulitu 2y ago
  > ie... there is no honor among thieves I would say that Microsoft forgot to index their bribes with the inflation level.
Jedd 3y ago
'Losing' makes it sound like a recent change of heart. Is this the same government that twenty years ago prosecuted Microsoft for breaching antitrust laws? And less than a year ago hit up Microsoft for ~$30B worth of unpaid taxes? EDIT: Add https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37702095 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37702095 (Everything authenticated by Microsoft is tainted - 2023-09)
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  That's not the same kind of trust.
GalaxyNova 3y ago
Again?
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  tbh, if microsoft lands AGI, and I have a feeling, that somehow Microsoft might do whatever it can to get first dibs, assuming OpenAI gets to AGI first, at which point Microsoft could own the world, or galaxy...assuming no other intelligent species has AI yet... Microsoft already said that if openai failed tomorrow, nothing would change w/ their AI offerings because they have ALL the code, and I'm assuming Sam signed away his soul to get all the server usage they could want, which includes the rights to openai tech. I'm not a microsoft hater, I'm just saying from a govt standpoint - i'd be wary of any company that could get to AGI, because they can get to ASI too soon after, and from there, the term monopoly just goes out the window. If a program's purpose is to do everything and anything, no matter what it is... like, how can it exist in the market without also destroying everything else. disclaimer, didn't read the article - just insight on why govt might be a little timid about Microsoft or any big AI players, at least the closer we get to AGI. I'm also not an AGI hater, in fact I can't wait (immortality tech next), just some conjecture...
  - petre 3y ago
    The Chinese will totally 0wn M$ before it owns the world.
    - hulitu 2y ago
      The CIA/NSA would like to have a word with you. /s
  - pests 3y ago
    Remember Microsoft doesn't get access to their AGI according to the terms. If they invent it.
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bastard_op 3y ago
Should they have ever held any trust to begin with? No.
- hulitu 2y ago
  We are talking about money here, not about some idealistic situation.
EAtmULFO 3y ago
Stocks traded by members of Congress by number of shares: #1 Microsoft: 98.01 million Source https://www.fool.com/research/congressional-stock-trading-who-trades-and-makes-the-most/ https://www.fool.com/research/congressional-stock-trading-wh...
- petre 3y ago
  M$ stock is roughly equivalent to a pension plan.
ChrisArchitect 3y ago
Related: CISA Releases Report on Microsoft Online Exchange Incident from Summer 2023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39922066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39922066 Scathing federal report rips Microsoft security in response to Chinese hack https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39914817 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39914817

39 points by tim_sw 3y ago

sam_goody 3y ago

> The U.S. government is losing trust in Microsoft ie... there is no honor among thieves

hulitu 2y ago
> ie... there is no honor among thieves I would say that Microsoft forgot to index their bribes with the inflation level.

Jedd 3y ago

'Losing' makes it sound like a recent change of heart. Is this the same government that twenty years ago prosecuted Microsoft for breaching antitrust laws? And less than a year ago hit up Microsoft for ~$30B worth of unpaid taxes? EDIT: Add https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37702095 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37702095 (Everything authenticated by Microsoft is tainted - 2023-09)

xboxnolifes 3y ago
That's not the same kind of trust.

GalaxyNova 3y ago

Again?

gremlinsinc 3y ago
tbh, if microsoft lands AGI, and I have a feeling, that somehow Microsoft might do whatever it can to get first dibs, assuming OpenAI gets to AGI first, at which point Microsoft could own the world, or galaxy...assuming no other intelligent species has AI yet... Microsoft already said that if openai failed tomorrow, nothing would change w/ their AI offerings because they have ALL the code, and I'm assuming Sam signed away his soul to get all the server usage they could want, which includes the rights to openai tech. I'm not a microsoft hater, I'm just saying from a govt standpoint - i'd be wary of any company that could get to AGI, because they can get to ASI too soon after, and from there, the term monopoly just goes out the window. If a program's purpose is to do everything and anything, no matter what it is... like, how can it exist in the market without also destroying everything else. disclaimer, didn't read the article - just insight on why govt might be a little timid about Microsoft or any big AI players, at least the closer we get to AGI. I'm also not an AGI hater, in fact I can't wait (immortality tech next), just some conjecture...
- petre 3y ago
  The Chinese will totally 0wn M$ before it owns the world.
  - hulitu 2y ago
    The CIA/NSA would like to have a word with you. /s
- pests 3y ago
  Remember Microsoft doesn't get access to their AGI according to the terms. If they invent it.

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bastard_op 3y ago

Should they have ever held any trust to begin with? No.

hulitu 2y ago
We are talking about money here, not about some idealistic situation.

EAtmULFO 3y ago

Stocks traded by members of Congress by number of shares: #1 Microsoft: 98.01 million Source https://www.fool.com/research/congressional-stock-trading-who-trades-and-makes-the-most/ https://www.fool.com/research/congressional-stock-trading-wh...

petre 3y ago
M$ stock is roughly equivalent to a pension plan.

ChrisArchitect 3y ago

Related: CISA Releases Report on Microsoft Online Exchange Incident from Summer 2023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39922066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39922066 Scathing federal report rips Microsoft security in response to Chinese hack https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39914817 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39914817