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I don't know that it means anything, but I'm a tech guy married to a tech gal and we still fit this category. In our case, it's because her work project is clas

I don't know that it means anything, but I'm a tech guy married to a tech gal and we still fit this category. In our case, it's because her work project is classified. The company itself allows full-remote work if your project is unclassified, but you can't get a SCIF in your house. It's amusing to me that this article claims it is usually the case that the husband is still not cooking and cleaning even though he's home. I'm cooking and cleaning all the damn time. With all the time spent at home, cooking has become my favorite hobby. I am quite often sneaking in prep for some elaborate, showy dinner while waiting for a build to finish or on a call that doesn't require me to present or speak.

znpy 3y ago
> I'm cooking and cleaning all the damn time. You don't fit the narrative, so most likely cases like yours are being ignored.
bglusman 3y ago
I didn’t read that part as saying “they’re not doing these things at all”, just that they’re not staying home them specifically to do them… they’re not “employed” as a “homemaker”, they are working from home. Unclear if you read it this way or are just commenting that you do more of those and you used to, several sibling comments seem to take, from your comment or the article, that this was a focus, and I don’t think it was?
red-iron-pine 3y ago
the F in SCIF is for "facility" -- generally implies a very secure location like charged windows to protect from TEMPTEST emissions, etc.
vinni2 3y ago
Sounds like you are an outlier.
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autoexecbat 3y ago
Why would someone's work location impact what house chores they do. It's still work-time not home-chores time.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  a lot of work requires being "present" but not really being at a desk. my 1-on-1s with my team dont require me or them to be at a desk. i take a notepad upstairs and do dishes while on those calls. during COVID my boss used to get on calls with me and it was clear he was at the grocery store because i could hear the self-checkout sounds in the background. as long as items are communicated, remembered, and acted on -- who cares what is happening?
- theodric 3y ago
  Because, freed from the time lost to a commute, they may have an extra 1-3 hours per day at home which is not owed to their employer.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Even if you take commute time out of the equation, working from home frees up a lot of time for tasks that aren't all active time.
    - wildzzz 3y ago
      It's been a while but I did work remotely for about 6 months back in 2020. I enjoyed not having to wake up earlier, not having to "hide" my short downtime breaks that I normally would at the office, and being able to do some basic quick chores during those breaks so that I'd have more time to spend with my partner after the work day. It was a nice pace but since my partner would also work from home with much longer breaks between her active working periods (multiple part time contracts), I would get heavily distracted because she wanted to take breaks together. I really did miss working at the office where if I wanted to focus, I could.
      - 3y ago
sbuccini 3y ago
> you can’t get a SCIF in your house Have you tried having a contractor follow ICD 705? https://www.dni.gov/files/Governance/IC-Tech-Specs-for-Const-and-Mgmt-of-SCIFs-v15.pdf https://www.dni.gov/files/Governance/IC-Tech-Specs-for-Const...

znpy 3y ago

> I'm cooking and cleaning all the damn time. You don't fit the narrative, so most likely cases like yours are being ignored.

bglusman 3y ago

I didn’t read that part as saying “they’re not doing these things at all”, just that they’re not staying home them specifically to do them… they’re not “employed” as a “homemaker”, they are working from home. Unclear if you read it this way or are just commenting that you do more of those and you used to, several sibling comments seem to take, from your comment or the article, that this was a focus, and I don’t think it was?

red-iron-pine 3y ago

the F in SCIF is for "facility" -- generally implies a very secure location like charged windows to protect from TEMPTEST emissions, etc.

vinni2 3y ago

Sounds like you are an outlier.

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autoexecbat 3y ago

Why would someone's work location impact what house chores they do. It's still work-time not home-chores time.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
a lot of work requires being "present" but not really being at a desk. my 1-on-1s with my team dont require me or them to be at a desk. i take a notepad upstairs and do dishes while on those calls. during COVID my boss used to get on calls with me and it was clear he was at the grocery store because i could hear the self-checkout sounds in the background. as long as items are communicated, remembered, and acted on -- who cares what is happening?
theodric 3y ago
Because, freed from the time lost to a commute, they may have an extra 1-3 hours per day at home which is not owed to their employer.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Even if you take commute time out of the equation, working from home frees up a lot of time for tasks that aren't all active time.
  - wildzzz 3y ago
    It's been a while but I did work remotely for about 6 months back in 2020. I enjoyed not having to wake up earlier, not having to "hide" my short downtime breaks that I normally would at the office, and being able to do some basic quick chores during those breaks so that I'd have more time to spend with my partner after the work day. It was a nice pace but since my partner would also work from home with much longer breaks between her active working periods (multiple part time contracts), I would get heavily distracted because she wanted to take breaks together. I really did miss working at the office where if I wanted to focus, I could.
    - 3y ago

sbuccini 3y ago

> you can’t get a SCIF in your house Have you tried having a contractor follow ICD 705? https://www.dni.gov/files/Governance/IC-Tech-Specs-for-Const-and-Mgmt-of-SCIFs-v15.pdf https://www.dni.gov/files/Governance/IC-Tech-Specs-for-Const...