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I'm shocked by your comment. Everyone that doesn't enjoy cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, mowing the lawn, or taking out the trash would LOVE a home robot tha

I'm shocked by your comment. Everyone that doesn't enjoy cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, mowing the lawn, or taking out the trash would LOVE a home robot that really works. Of course, these are very hard problems to take on -- much harder than a "smart" light switch -- but the market is absolutely there.

ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
Everything that can be automated, should be automated
CharlieDigital 3y ago
> Everyone that doesn't enjoy cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, mowing the lawn, or taking out the trash would LOVE a home robot that really works. We are far, far away from any of the remaining tedious parts of those things being done competently by a robot. - Dishes: dishwashers already do the majority of the labor intensive part. - Laundry: the washer already does the labor intensive part. - Mowing: if you don't trust robot cars, you shouldn't trust a moving robot with blades attached. - Taking out the trash: I don't see buying a multi-thousand dollar robot to save me the 20 seconds it takes to walk the garbage out. Even robot vacuums are kinda terrible.
- fragmede 3y ago
  How far is "far far away" to you? The recent robot demos (linked below) make me thing it's not that far off. I think within my lifetime, certainly. Within the decade, at most. I expect someone to announce something concrete within a couple of years. https://www.figure.ai/ https://www.figure.ai/ https://wholebody-b1.github.io/ https://wholebody-b1.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://mobile-aloha.github.io/ https://mobile-aloha.github.io/
  - CharlieDigital 3y ago
    Are those supposed to convince me that spending thousands on a robot will make my life measurably better? Because they're not; the exact opposite in fact. That Spot missing the shoe on the first grab, being loud, and taking up more space than a German Shepard (without the floofy companionship) is case in point how far away we are.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      I not sure why you think I'm trying to convince you that you should spend any of your money on something you don't want.
- LightBug1 3y ago
  Upvote for robot vaccums - even value ones are pretty good these days (imo)
- V99 3y ago
  Traversing a rectangle of grass at 2mph in a backyard is absurdly simpler than self-driving cars on open roads, and the absolute worst-case is something like a foot or pet injury. There are multiple companies that already sell automatic lawn mowers in the $1000+ range. Some you bury a boundary wire around the target area, others figure it out with cameras.
  - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
    Unless it is not a rectangle and there trees randomly in the way and wife's flowers on the sides.
    - fragmede 3y ago
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- canadianfella 3y ago
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- Clamchop 3y ago
  Robot vacuums are great! They have limitations but they work really well within that envelope in my experience.
- 7thaccount 3y ago
  Thank you for being the voice of reason:) Sure I'd like a personal robot butler to walk the dog and a dozen other annoying tasks, but apple isn't going to figure that out short of AGI or a quantum leap forward in more traditional approaches. What we're going to get is something like the Roomba, which was already useless in my tight house. I can't imagine too many things that would be relatively achievable that I would care about. I guess I wasn't very clear above lol.
- KerrAvon 3y ago
  If they were invented today, dishwashers would be the same product but be called dish-washing robots. It's essentially what they are. Being mobile isn't essential to robotness.
  - LightBug1 3y ago
    AI Powered Robotic Cleansing Assistants ... Breakthrough technology.

ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago

Everything that can be automated, should be automated

CharlieDigital 3y ago

> Everyone that doesn't enjoy cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, mowing the lawn, or taking out the trash would LOVE a home robot that really works. We are far, far away from any of the remaining tedious parts of those things being done competently by a robot. - Dishes: dishwashers already do the majority of the labor intensive part. - Laundry: the washer already does the labor intensive part. - Mowing: if you don't trust robot cars, you shouldn't trust a moving robot with blades attached. - Taking out the trash: I don't see buying a multi-thousand dollar robot to save me the 20 seconds it takes to walk the garbage out. Even robot vacuums are kinda terrible.

fragmede 3y ago
How far is "far far away" to you? The recent robot demos (linked below) make me thing it's not that far off. I think within my lifetime, certainly. Within the decade, at most. I expect someone to announce something concrete within a couple of years. https://www.figure.ai/ https://www.figure.ai/ https://wholebody-b1.github.io/ https://wholebody-b1.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://mobile-aloha.github.io/ https://mobile-aloha.github.io/
- CharlieDigital 3y ago
  Are those supposed to convince me that spending thousands on a robot will make my life measurably better? Because they're not; the exact opposite in fact. That Spot missing the shoe on the first grab, being loud, and taking up more space than a German Shepard (without the floofy companionship) is case in point how far away we are.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    I not sure why you think I'm trying to convince you that you should spend any of your money on something you don't want.
LightBug1 3y ago
Upvote for robot vaccums - even value ones are pretty good these days (imo)
V99 3y ago
Traversing a rectangle of grass at 2mph in a backyard is absurdly simpler than self-driving cars on open roads, and the absolute worst-case is something like a foot or pet injury. There are multiple companies that already sell automatic lawn mowers in the $1000+ range. Some you bury a boundary wire around the target area, others figure it out with cameras.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  Unless it is not a rectangle and there trees randomly in the way and wife's flowers on the sides.
  - fragmede 3y ago
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canadianfella 3y ago
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Clamchop 3y ago
Robot vacuums are great! They have limitations but they work really well within that envelope in my experience.
7thaccount 3y ago
Thank you for being the voice of reason:) Sure I'd like a personal robot butler to walk the dog and a dozen other annoying tasks, but apple isn't going to figure that out short of AGI or a quantum leap forward in more traditional approaches. What we're going to get is something like the Roomba, which was already useless in my tight house. I can't imagine too many things that would be relatively achievable that I would care about. I guess I wasn't very clear above lol.
KerrAvon 3y ago
If they were invented today, dishwashers would be the same product but be called dish-washing robots. It's essentially what they are. Being mobile isn't essential to robotness.
- LightBug1 3y ago
  AI Powered Robotic Cleansing Assistants ... Breakthrough technology.