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> communism [is] obviously worse in my eyes due to Death squads, Banana Republics, indefinite US embargo and coup attempts, Pinochet & the Chicago Boys, riskin

> communism [is] obviously worse in my eyes due to Death squads, Banana Republics, indefinite US embargo and coup attempts, Pinochet & the Chicago Boys, risking the US military invading you in order to avoid the Domino Effect. > Speaking of alternative ideas..Chesterton was critical of both communism and capitalism. Distributism as described in that article is socialism modeled on the ideal of the small-time craftsman or whatever of that time. That would probably be called naive by normal socialists (certainly by communists like Leninists) but it has some similarities with socialism. On the other hand it seems to outright reject anything like the modern capitalism that we are dealing with in the present. > Regardless, I'm really interested in these kinds of niche ideas if anyone has others to share. Riffs on socialism, an idea which is over two-hundred years old and has adherents all over the globe. Fought against and repressed is not the same as niche.

7thaccount 3y ago
I'd lean pretty heavily towards capitalism in a contest with communism or any other authoritarian system strictly based on personal liberty. It may suck at times, but I do have a choice. I'm thinking about Hayek's well known road to serfdom here that explains how well meaning systems like communism inevitably end up. I think you may be splitting hairs with regards to terminology. I said niche as in unpopular and not well known. I think it and many other systems match that description and are interesting to talk about.
- keybored 3y ago
  > I'd lean pretty heavily towards capitalism in a contest with communism or any other authoritarian system strictly based on personal liberty. Freedom to form death squads, Banana Republics, establish indefinite [US] embargo and coup attempts, help out Pinochet & the Chicago Boys, freedom to invade countries just because they are communist.
  - Sabinus 3y ago
    Do you think a communist government with the same power as the US would refrain from the above?
    - keybored 3y ago
      First of all you respond to my really-existing-things-that-happened/happen by asking about a hypothetical what-about for the other side. I’ll just note that. Second of all, where is the symmetry? The common thread here is that some countries wanted to self-determine and use their resources for themselves. But then America/American corporations didn’t want that because they wanted those things for the corporations. National-level socialist ambitions thwarted by corporations. Is then the supposedly (hypothetical) evil of a Soviet Union thwarting upstart capitalist corporation in its backyard? Hmm, if that makes sense to you, whatever. EDIT: I realize now that this is another commenter. But the same applies.

7thaccount 3y ago

I'd lean pretty heavily towards capitalism in a contest with communism or any other authoritarian system strictly based on personal liberty. It may suck at times, but I do have a choice. I'm thinking about Hayek's well known road to serfdom here that explains how well meaning systems like communism inevitably end up. I think you may be splitting hairs with regards to terminology. I said niche as in unpopular and not well known. I think it and many other systems match that description and are interesting to talk about.

keybored 3y ago
> I'd lean pretty heavily towards capitalism in a contest with communism or any other authoritarian system strictly based on personal liberty. Freedom to form death squads, Banana Republics, establish indefinite [US] embargo and coup attempts, help out Pinochet & the Chicago Boys, freedom to invade countries just because they are communist.
- Sabinus 3y ago
  Do you think a communist government with the same power as the US would refrain from the above?
  - keybored 3y ago
    First of all you respond to my really-existing-things-that-happened/happen by asking about a hypothetical what-about for the other side. I’ll just note that. Second of all, where is the symmetry? The common thread here is that some countries wanted to self-determine and use their resources for themselves. But then America/American corporations didn’t want that because they wanted those things for the corporations. National-level socialist ambitions thwarted by corporations. Is then the supposedly (hypothetical) evil of a Soviet Union thwarting upstart capitalist corporation in its backyard? Hmm, if that makes sense to you, whatever. EDIT: I realize now that this is another commenter. But the same applies.