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I haven't gone to a link and filled out an application in a very long time. The way that has generally worked is that the internal contact puts your resume (or

I haven't gone to a link and filled out an application in a very long time. The way that has generally worked is that the internal contact puts your resume (or just a linkedin profile link) directly into the top of the "do a phone screen" funnel. This is indeed more common at smaller or earlier stage companies. My current job was an "internal contact" at a smallish ~20 person company, where that entailed the CEO still personally manning the "reach out if you're interested in working with us and tell us why!" email address. My "this is why I understand and would be excited to work at your company" message, along with my linkedin profile, was a close enough match for what they were looking for right that moment to make it into the phone screen funnel right away. But recruiters can do this as well. It's sort of the whole point... I think it would be weird for a recruiter to do a direct reach-out, and then say "ok here's the application link, good luck!". Like, what did they actually do there? Just making you aware of the application link? That's marketing, not recruiting... But I also haven't ever skipped past the phone screen(s) and interview(s) straight to a job offer. I agree with you that this can't be as widespread as people make it seem. I could see that happening if I'm applying to work directly with / for someone I've already worked with a bunch in the past. But even then, we would need to meet for coffee or a drink a time or two to discuss the opportunity, and ... that's an interview!

tstrimple 3y ago
> This is indeed more common at smaller or earlier stage companies. This is anecdotal of course, but the last three companies that I’ve worked for that employ over 100k employees followed the exact same process. Strong internal referrals are little more than basic due diligence and welcome aboard if they hit during hiring season. There are some other interviews, but unless you’re seriously bad at conversations they are mostly a formality.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  Which ones? There aren't that many software companies of that size. I worked for one of them (Google) until a couple years ago, and I never knew of any ICs, at least up to the "Staff" level, who skipped the interview gauntlet on the back of an internal referral. It was a good way to get an interview though (which was already a big advantage). Maybe it was different for managers though. Is this different at Meta/Amazon/Microsoft? That has not been my impression, but I don't have personal experience with those companies.

tstrimple 3y ago

> This is indeed more common at smaller or earlier stage companies. This is anecdotal of course, but the last three companies that I’ve worked for that employ over 100k employees followed the exact same process. Strong internal referrals are little more than basic due diligence and welcome aboard if they hit during hiring season. There are some other interviews, but unless you’re seriously bad at conversations they are mostly a formality.

sanderjd 3y ago
Which ones? There aren't that many software companies of that size. I worked for one of them (Google) until a couple years ago, and I never knew of any ICs, at least up to the "Staff" level, who skipped the interview gauntlet on the back of an internal referral. It was a good way to get an interview though (which was already a big advantage). Maybe it was different for managers though. Is this different at Meta/Amazon/Microsoft? That has not been my impression, but I don't have personal experience with those companies.