Well, I have some Li stock and it's been up this past year, so that's a good indicator. I'm not sure about Rivian, it's stock has been pretty flat the last yea

Well, I have some Li stock and it's been up this past year, so that's a good indicator. I'm not sure about Rivian, it's stock has been pretty flat the last year. Lucid by a similar measure is definitely bleeding. Hasn't been a good year for Tesla either, but I wonder how much of that is Musk being silly. Canoo has been interesting, over the last 2 years up to a few months ago it had dropped 98% in stock price. Over the last two months it's grown quite steadily. It has what looks like a great vehicle, a good story for it, strong interest and orders (including fleet interest from Wal Mart and USPS and others). But, it's hanging on by a thread.