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I have never seen such a story from a respected source. Please provide some examples.
by avgDev 3y ago
I have never seen such a story from a respected source. Please provide some examples.
- jjulius 3y agoTwo minutes before you responded: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39933211 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39933211
- avgDev 3y agoIs the verge a reliable news source now? Oof.
- jdminhbg 3y agoHere's the NTSB report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/HWY21FH007.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/HWY21FH007.aspx
- jjulius 3y ago[sigh] You know, it's hard to know what sources other people consider to be "reputable" these days, so perhaps you could put on your big boy britches and google the subject to find a source you like rather than expecting us to know what you trust and don't trust? I mean, shit, if you bothered to look at the Verge article you'd have seen the link to the NTSB report. Here ya go... https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/09/ntsb-finds-no-evidence-tesla-autopilot-used-in-fatal-2021-texas-crash.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/09/ntsb-finds-no-evidence-tesla... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-crash-spring-texas-deaths-mystery-solved-ntsb/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-crash-spring-texas-deaths... https://fortune.com/2024/03/17/ntsb-fatal-crash-automated-driving-system-ford-electric-vehicle-not-tesla/ https://fortune.com/2024/03/17/ntsb-fatal-crash-automated-dr... https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/02/autopilot-had-no-involvment-in-fatal-texas-tesla-crash-ntsb-says/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/02/autopilot-had-no-involv... https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-probe-finds-no-evidence-tesla-autopilot-use-2021-texas-crash-2023-02-08/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-pro... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/driver-was-behind-wheel-time-texas-tesla-crash-ntsb-says-n1282056 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/driver-was-behind-wheel... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/21/automobiles/tesla-texas-crash-autopilot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/21/automobiles/tesla-texas-c... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-at-time-of-tesla-crash-in-texas-ntsb-says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/autopilot-engaged-texas-tesla-crash-ntsb-report/story?id=77605592 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/autopilot-engaged-texas-tesl... https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36387950/ntsb-investigation-tesla-model-s-autopilot/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36387950/ntsb-investigati... https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2021/05/10/ntsb-preliminary-report-on-texas-tesla-crash-adds-these-tidbits/?sh=29cad2435800 https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2021/05/10/ntsb-p... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39933859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39933859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34731013 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34731013 Would you like some more?
- brewdad 3y agoWhere are the initial headlines that blamed autopilot for this crash? The assertion had two parts and these stories only reflect the latter.
- jjulius 3y agoI suppose I'll keep holding folks hands... So, Google's results only seem interested on showing the articles about the NTSB's ultimate findings, not the ones that were originally reported immediately after the crash. I then assumed that some of the articles I had linked in that post would probably link back to their own previous articles about it, and figured I'd just start by going through that list from the top down. Sure enough, the second one I linked, from CBS News, linked to their older article on it, entitled, "No one was driving Tesla before fiery crash that killed 2 passengers in Texas, authorities say". https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-crash-texas-no-one-dirving/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-crash-texas-no-one-dirvin... Edit: >The assertion had two parts and these stories only reflect the latter. They don't, actually. Take this line from the Ars piece (though Ars isn't the only one that says something like this - most of them do! :D), for instance: >The possible involvement of Autopilot was suggested in the wake of initial reports that one of the two occupants—specifically the driver—was found in the back seat of the car. If you click the Ars link, you'll notice that the phrase "initial reports" also links to their own article written immediately after the event, titled, "Cops 'almost 99.9% sure' Tesla had no one at the wheel before deadly crash".
- tnmom 3y agoThank you; I didn’t have the time or patience to deal with the “sources” crowd on this one.