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And where is the manual for OSX? I swear, half the people on HN are OSX sychophants who can't fathom a minor criticism on the UX for OSX. It doesn't, "just wor

And where is the manual for OSX? I swear, half the people on HN are OSX sychophants who can't fathom a minor criticism on the UX for OSX. It doesn't, "just work" all the time and guess what? Even IOS has its own UX quirks (swipe back ring a bell)? We get it, you're a herd follower and like looking cool by buying over priced fashion tech pieces.

hu3 3y ago
My wife's iOS crashes multiple times a week. She does open too much stuff but that's no excuse for an OS crash. We went to genius bar and they basically told her she was using it wrong. I guess OS stability is not guaranteed these days.
- Toutouxc 3y ago
  I agree that that's no excuse and I'm genuinely sorry about your wife's experience, but it just doesn't happen to many people. I'm currently on my first iPhone, a 13 Mini, and I don't remember it ever "crashing". I don't even know what that looks like, like if there's an error message or if it just hangs or goes black, I don't know how to force-reboot it, because I don't need to. My fiancée and my dad are both on their first iPhones and (because I'm the one who talked them into it) I ask them regularly if they're happy — they both are, with zero issues. To be fair, there was a period when Safari on my iPad would hang occasionally, and that got resolved by an update.
- freitzkriesler2 3y ago
  Amen, like I said Apple psychophants are everywhere.
reaperducer 3y ago
And where is the manual for OSX? Google is your friend: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac Clearly you're not up to date on what's happening with Apple, or Macs since "OSX" hasn't been a thing since 2016.
- freitzkriesler2 3y ago
  A pedantic engineer has appeared! This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't care. I don't have time to read manuals and spend time on the welcome documentation. If it isn't obvious OOTB how to use somettbing like an OS that is built on the presupposition of ease of us, then your UX is bad and not intuitive. We're not talking specializes software here like a DAW or a IDE. It's a desktop OS ffs.
  - Toutouxc 3y ago
    The thread: > complaints .. are ... from people who won't RTFM > (you) And where is the manual for OSX? > [link] > (you) I don't care. I don't have time to read manuals Are you being serious?
    - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
      Yes. OSX is designed precisely so one doesn't have to RTFM. If my you can't see that, go back to your Mac. We get it you're a follower.
      - Toutouxc 2y ago
        There is no "OSX". You don't know anything about me. Stop being obtuse.
  - adamomada 3y ago
    Translation: I don’t know how to use something new and it doesn’t do exactly what I imagine it should do and instead of learning I get mad
tpmoney 3y ago
There’s a help menu right at the top of the screen. In every app it will search the menus and provided application help. In the finder, it also has a “macOS help” item which brings up the offline user manual, including the table of contents where you will find the entry “Apps -> Work with app windows -> Maximize or minimize app windows”

hu3 3y ago

My wife's iOS crashes multiple times a week. She does open too much stuff but that's no excuse for an OS crash. We went to genius bar and they basically told her she was using it wrong. I guess OS stability is not guaranteed these days.

Toutouxc 3y ago
I agree that that's no excuse and I'm genuinely sorry about your wife's experience, but it just doesn't happen to many people. I'm currently on my first iPhone, a 13 Mini, and I don't remember it ever "crashing". I don't even know what that looks like, like if there's an error message or if it just hangs or goes black, I don't know how to force-reboot it, because I don't need to. My fiancée and my dad are both on their first iPhones and (because I'm the one who talked them into it) I ask them regularly if they're happy — they both are, with zero issues. To be fair, there was a period when Safari on my iPad would hang occasionally, and that got resolved by an update.
freitzkriesler2 3y ago
Amen, like I said Apple psychophants are everywhere.

reaperducer 3y ago

And where is the manual for OSX? Google is your friend: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac Clearly you're not up to date on what's happening with Apple, or Macs since "OSX" hasn't been a thing since 2016.

freitzkriesler2 3y ago
A pedantic engineer has appeared! This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't care. I don't have time to read manuals and spend time on the welcome documentation. If it isn't obvious OOTB how to use somettbing like an OS that is built on the presupposition of ease of us, then your UX is bad and not intuitive. We're not talking specializes software here like a DAW or a IDE. It's a desktop OS ffs.
- Toutouxc 3y ago
  The thread: > complaints .. are ... from people who won't RTFM > (you) And where is the manual for OSX? > [link] > (you) I don't care. I don't have time to read manuals Are you being serious?
  - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
    Yes. OSX is designed precisely so one doesn't have to RTFM. If my you can't see that, go back to your Mac. We get it you're a follower.
    - Toutouxc 2y ago
      There is no "OSX". You don't know anything about me. Stop being obtuse.
- adamomada 3y ago
  Translation: I don’t know how to use something new and it doesn’t do exactly what I imagine it should do and instead of learning I get mad

tpmoney 3y ago

There’s a help menu right at the top of the screen. In every app it will search the menus and provided application help. In the finder, it also has a “macOS help” item which brings up the offline user manual, including the table of contents where you will find the entry “Apps -> Work with app windows -> Maximize or minimize app windows”