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"illegal brothel" Maybe some people don't think brothel's should be illegal. That the moral arguments against them are empty Christian virtue signaling? "I ca

"illegal brothel" Maybe some people don't think brothel's should be illegal. That the moral arguments against them are empty Christian virtue signaling? "I can’t take writers like this seriously." So, don't read Socrates? Because he was found guilty by the State. Breaking the law means your thoughts don't matter?

constantcrying 3y ago
This is so disingenuous. Sure, the only objection against female exploitation and trafficking is Christian virtue signaling. Should men (pimps) be allowed to police women's bodies for profit? Difficult question, I know. Socrates was convicted for "hate speech", not a robbery. Even making that comparison is stupid.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  You are making just as extreme disingenuous assumptions. I never said what form the legality would take. Making prostitution legal so that there can be adequate regulation and health care is a far cry from saying it would be done by pimps. As if there would be some "pimp congregational sub-committee on prostitute OSHA regulations". Projecting todays standards of "hate speech" onto the ancient world. Really? You think that is what was happening?
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    Prostitution is the one thing where socialists believe in free enterprise and conservatives don't. Quite hilarious to be honest. But no, prostitution won't become better just because it is legalized. The incentives are always towards abusing and trafficking women, making them legal just makes prosecution harder.
    - hackable_sand 3y ago
      Legal sex work means sex workers have legal recourse. They can actually call law enforcement instead of staying the invisible class of victims. This is especially true for minority sex workers.
      - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        Yes, exactly. And, also, if worried about victims. Could stop making the laws focused on the 'prostitute' being the guilty party, and make the laws more geared towards the 'user' of the service.
    - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      Other fun fact. There are statistics collected on the increase in prostitution around different events. There is a much larger increase in prostitution around Republican National Conventions over the Democratic National Conventions. But, I don't think this is really a socialist issue. More feminist isn't it, women should be free to do what they want. Socialist countries just generally have more equal rights, or should. Prostitution and Abortion are both issues where the religious wanting 'control'. And for Republicans religion now overrides the free market.
kbrkbr 3y ago
You can't read Socrates, because he did not write. You can read Plato though.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  Ok. So don't read what others wrote about Socrates. So if Socrates committed crimes, then is it ok to read what others wrote about him, if they themselves had not committed any crimes, or can we not read anything about anybody that has committed a crime?

constantcrying 3y ago

This is so disingenuous. Sure, the only objection against female exploitation and trafficking is Christian virtue signaling. Should men (pimps) be allowed to police women's bodies for profit? Difficult question, I know. Socrates was convicted for "hate speech", not a robbery. Even making that comparison is stupid.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
You are making just as extreme disingenuous assumptions. I never said what form the legality would take. Making prostitution legal so that there can be adequate regulation and health care is a far cry from saying it would be done by pimps. As if there would be some "pimp congregational sub-committee on prostitute OSHA regulations". Projecting todays standards of "hate speech" onto the ancient world. Really? You think that is what was happening?
- constantcrying 3y ago
  Prostitution is the one thing where socialists believe in free enterprise and conservatives don't. Quite hilarious to be honest. But no, prostitution won't become better just because it is legalized. The incentives are always towards abusing and trafficking women, making them legal just makes prosecution harder.
  - hackable_sand 3y ago
    Legal sex work means sex workers have legal recourse. They can actually call law enforcement instead of staying the invisible class of victims. This is especially true for minority sex workers.
    - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      Yes, exactly. And, also, if worried about victims. Could stop making the laws focused on the 'prostitute' being the guilty party, and make the laws more geared towards the 'user' of the service.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    Other fun fact. There are statistics collected on the increase in prostitution around different events. There is a much larger increase in prostitution around Republican National Conventions over the Democratic National Conventions. But, I don't think this is really a socialist issue. More feminist isn't it, women should be free to do what they want. Socialist countries just generally have more equal rights, or should. Prostitution and Abortion are both issues where the religious wanting 'control'. And for Republicans religion now overrides the free market.

kbrkbr 3y ago

You can't read Socrates, because he did not write. You can read Plato though.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
Ok. So don't read what others wrote about Socrates. So if Socrates committed crimes, then is it ok to read what others wrote about him, if they themselves had not committed any crimes, or can we not read anything about anybody that has committed a crime?