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It's pretty annoying how the article is quite both-sides-ism about the whole thing. Four months to receive an offer? Come on. You get the vast majority of the

It's pretty annoying how the article is quite both-sides-ism about the whole thing. Four months to receive an offer? Come on. You get the vast majority of the signal for a candidate in the interview process itself. All of the backoffice deliberations don't require months of meetings. It's just more okay that it gets dragged out because the market is lousy. Call it what it is: indecision and inefficiency.

SoftTalker 3y ago
Yeah I really don't get it. If you need to hire people, hire them. If you don't, why are you wasting your time and theirs by interviewing them endlessly? I get that a business may always want to be open to hiring an exceptional person if one becomes available, but that's very often based on an internal recommendation/reference not a response to a job posting. Execptional people generally don't apply to posted jobs, they work their network.
cjf101 3y ago
Four months for an offer sounds a lot more like a terrible salary negotiation tactic. The longer a candidate will wait for an offer, the less money they might be willing to accept. It's definitely not going to get you the best candidate, but it might get you the cheapest one.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  that's a whole quarter + a month where you didn't have a body and stuff didn't get done. maybe they'd be slow at first and a burden until they're up to speed, but that means you start that process sooner. they either needed the exact, perfect candidate, or else they wasted a lot of time
- hinkley 3y ago
  In four months you’d owe me another 1% just for inflation. But the last time I interviewed I got a callback after less than two months and they found I’d already had a new job for a week and a half. (In retrospect I should have followed up with them, as the new place was throwing red flags).
Johnie 3y ago
This is similar to NYC dating scene. People are not willing to commit in case something better comes along. If you can drag your decision for 4 months, another better candidate may come through the door.
a_vanderbilt 3y ago
The number of times I've applied to startups and and SMBs and accepted an offer, to have some Fortune X00 company follow up 3-6 months later and make an offer is eye-rolling. The best candidates aren't the one's who are sitting on the market for 6 months, and if the cycle time to make the offer is that long then they are filtering for mediocrity.

SoftTalker 3y ago

Yeah I really don't get it. If you need to hire people, hire them. If you don't, why are you wasting your time and theirs by interviewing them endlessly? I get that a business may always want to be open to hiring an exceptional person if one becomes available, but that's very often based on an internal recommendation/reference not a response to a job posting. Execptional people generally don't apply to posted jobs, they work their network.

cjf101 3y ago

Four months for an offer sounds a lot more like a terrible salary negotiation tactic. The longer a candidate will wait for an offer, the less money they might be willing to accept. It's definitely not going to get you the best candidate, but it might get you the cheapest one.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
that's a whole quarter + a month where you didn't have a body and stuff didn't get done. maybe they'd be slow at first and a burden until they're up to speed, but that means you start that process sooner. they either needed the exact, perfect candidate, or else they wasted a lot of time
hinkley 3y ago
In four months you’d owe me another 1% just for inflation. But the last time I interviewed I got a callback after less than two months and they found I’d already had a new job for a week and a half. (In retrospect I should have followed up with them, as the new place was throwing red flags).

Johnie 3y ago

This is similar to NYC dating scene. People are not willing to commit in case something better comes along. If you can drag your decision for 4 months, another better candidate may come through the door.

a_vanderbilt 3y ago

The number of times I've applied to startups and and SMBs and accepted an offer, to have some Fortune X00 company follow up 3-6 months later and make an offer is eye-rolling. The best candidates aren't the one's who are sitting on the market for 6 months, and if the cycle time to make the offer is that long then they are filtering for mediocrity.