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Averaging less than 1 death per year since they've been opened. Skydiving is a risk activity, a calculated a risk but a risk nonetheless.

by hk1337 3y ago

xeonmc 3y ago
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math.
RankingMember 3y ago
That still seems high given the industry-wide stats unless they're doing a crazy number of jumps per year https://www.uspa.org/discover/faqs/safety https://www.uspa.org/discover/faqs/safety
mikestew 3y ago
If a drop zone had anywhere near one death per year, I'd find somewhere else to jump. Skydiving isn't that dangerous.
longerthoughts 3y ago
I'm an experienced skydiver - one death per year is an insanely low bar for any drop zone. Lodi is notorious for incidents and I would never jump there. Skydiving seems insanely risky because it's scary but it's statistically not particularly risky [0], especially for conscientious skydivers at well-run drop zones. The calculation on "calculated risk" changes dramatically once you start blowing off safety protocol, which are what keep the sport relatively safe. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9859333/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9859333/
- rcurry 3y ago
  This. I used to jump at a DZ in the Midwest that has been in operation for like thirty years and had, I think, only one fatality. But we had great safety people in charge and were really careful with students. My first jump there was a static line solo and they gave an hour long classroom session followed by time in a hanging harness practicing emergency procedures and malfunction recognition.
dilyevsky 3y ago
Skydiving nationally is less risky than rock climbing (even in the gym) but a factor of like 5-7 iirc. If my local gym had this high fatality rate they'd probably have to shutdown because they wouldn't be able to obtain insurance.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  Pretty sure when you join a gym you sign a waiver of liability. At least if the gym owners have any sense at all.
  - dilyevsky 3y ago
    Gross negligence or harmful intent can not be waived at least here in CA

Averaging less than 1 death per year since they've been opened. Skydiving is a risk activity, a calculated a risk but a risk nonetheless.

by hk1337 3y ago

Averaging less than 1 death per year since they've been opened. Skydiving is a risk activity, a calculated a risk but a risk nonetheless.

xeonmc 3y ago

The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math.

RankingMember 3y ago

That still seems high given the industry-wide stats unless they're doing a crazy number of jumps per year https://www.uspa.org/discover/faqs/safety https://www.uspa.org/discover/faqs/safety

mikestew 3y ago

If a drop zone had anywhere near one death per year, I'd find somewhere else to jump. Skydiving isn't that dangerous.

longerthoughts 3y ago

I'm an experienced skydiver - one death per year is an insanely low bar for any drop zone. Lodi is notorious for incidents and I would never jump there. Skydiving seems insanely risky because it's scary but it's statistically not particularly risky [0], especially for conscientious skydivers at well-run drop zones. The calculation on "calculated risk" changes dramatically once you start blowing off safety protocol, which are what keep the sport relatively safe. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9859333/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9859333/

rcurry 3y ago
This. I used to jump at a DZ in the Midwest that has been in operation for like thirty years and had, I think, only one fatality. But we had great safety people in charge and were really careful with students. My first jump there was a static line solo and they gave an hour long classroom session followed by time in a hanging harness practicing emergency procedures and malfunction recognition.

dilyevsky 3y ago

Skydiving nationally is less risky than rock climbing (even in the gym) but a factor of like 5-7 iirc. If my local gym had this high fatality rate they'd probably have to shutdown because they wouldn't be able to obtain insurance.

SoftTalker 3y ago
Pretty sure when you join a gym you sign a waiver of liability. At least if the gym owners have any sense at all.
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  Gross negligence or harmful intent can not be waived at least here in CA