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He’s essentially asking for modern day piracy. I do believe we’re very much on the receiving end of piracy from all our openly hostile enemies (e.g. China, Russ

He’s essentially asking for modern day piracy. I do believe we’re very much on the receiving end of piracy from all our openly hostile enemies (e.g. China, Russia, NK, etc) it’s time to level the playing field.

nickff 3y ago
I think he's looking for modern day 'letters of marque' and privateering, not piracy; they're quite different.
- moshun 3y ago
  Only from the aggressors point of view. You get your nation’s technological foundations crippled or your financial institutions robbed, I’m betting which bureaucratic requisition form used to authorize it is inconsequential.
  - nickff 3y ago
    Pirates are not authorized by any bureaucracy, which makes them much more difficult to stamp out. Pirates are also known for being much more brutal and indiscriminate (hence the Jolly Roger used to advertise that fact). Privateers were not kind either, but they're somewhat comparable to an extension of a navy in its raids on merchant shipping.
junaru 3y ago
> it’s time to level the playing field. West being on the receiving end IS levelling of the playing field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
RobotToaster 3y ago
Now take Sir Francis Drake, the Spanish all despise him But to the British, he's a hero and they idolize him It's how you look at buccaneers that makes them bad or good And I see us as members of a noble brotherhood
r14c 3y ago
What do you mean "level the playing field"? You have an NSA and a CIA. Y'all have been on the offensive for at least 200 years. All the american chips have backdoors and y'all have the biggest military budget. But no, the playing field is "unfair"
- p4x_real 3y ago
  who said it had to be fair? Yes we do that stuff and yes we have been on the intelligence side covertly on the offensive. I’m advocating for loud and proud here though. We have more than enough bandwidth in every sense of the word to do both. IMO we treat it like any other sanction. Your point is well received though, we have been very much on the offensive. Which is how you know that if we had the capability to do loud and effective shit and have the world stage see it, we would do it. But we don’t because everyone is for some reason afraid to do it. I worked for DARPA for about a decade and a half, we weren’t ever allowed to use the word hacking. Think about how fucked that is. They were making advanced tanks, drones, missiles, all kinds of weapons to kill people. But hacking??? Way too far man! That’s too much!! And yes this is actually Alejandro / P4x.
  - r14c 3y ago
    i don't care who you are. the us already bills itself as "the greatest nation on earth" (in spite of any evidence to the contrary lol) and constantly flaunts international law. how can you be more loud and proud than that?
  - axus 3y ago
    The top level comment was saying it has to be fair. We're certainly getting a lot of insight into your thought process!

nickff 3y ago

I think he's looking for modern day 'letters of marque' and privateering, not piracy; they're quite different.

moshun 3y ago
Only from the aggressors point of view. You get your nation’s technological foundations crippled or your financial institutions robbed, I’m betting which bureaucratic requisition form used to authorize it is inconsequential.
- nickff 3y ago
  Pirates are not authorized by any bureaucracy, which makes them much more difficult to stamp out. Pirates are also known for being much more brutal and indiscriminate (hence the Jolly Roger used to advertise that fact). Privateers were not kind either, but they're somewhat comparable to an extension of a navy in its raids on merchant shipping.

junaru 3y ago

> it’s time to level the playing field. West being on the receiving end IS levelling of the playing field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

RobotToaster 3y ago

Now take Sir Francis Drake, the Spanish all despise him But to the British, he's a hero and they idolize him It's how you look at buccaneers that makes them bad or good And I see us as members of a noble brotherhood

r14c 3y ago

What do you mean "level the playing field"? You have an NSA and a CIA. Y'all have been on the offensive for at least 200 years. All the american chips have backdoors and y'all have the biggest military budget. But no, the playing field is "unfair"

p4x_real 3y ago
who said it had to be fair? Yes we do that stuff and yes we have been on the intelligence side covertly on the offensive. I’m advocating for loud and proud here though. We have more than enough bandwidth in every sense of the word to do both. IMO we treat it like any other sanction. Your point is well received though, we have been very much on the offensive. Which is how you know that if we had the capability to do loud and effective shit and have the world stage see it, we would do it. But we don’t because everyone is for some reason afraid to do it. I worked for DARPA for about a decade and a half, we weren’t ever allowed to use the word hacking. Think about how fucked that is. They were making advanced tanks, drones, missiles, all kinds of weapons to kill people. But hacking??? Way too far man! That’s too much!! And yes this is actually Alejandro / P4x.
- r14c 3y ago
  i don't care who you are. the us already bills itself as "the greatest nation on earth" (in spite of any evidence to the contrary lol) and constantly flaunts international law. how can you be more loud and proud than that?
- axus 3y ago
  The top level comment was saying it has to be fair. We're certainly getting a lot of insight into your thought process!