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The implied meaning (global) is in strong contrast to the actual meaning (restricted to the USA).
by LeonB 3y ago
The implied meaning (global) is in strong contrast to the actual meaning (restricted to the USA).
- tekla 3y agoBut that's not irony. It's also a weird thing to complain about. It happens in NYC and I know people who come internationally for HOPE. And even if they didn't, are US based attendees also not on planet earth? The things people try and fet angry about...
- throwaway458864 3y agoObviously it happens on planet earth and the visitors are hackers who live on planet earth. I don't think they care particularly if it's ironic, I think they just don't like the name and are looking for something to complain about. So let them complain.
- mdrzn 3y agoI wasn't complaining, I just posted something I noticed considering I just learned about this organization. I went to check the tickets, then the history of the event, and noticed that it has always been held in the US. Since HN in general likes to complain about names (OpenAI? more like ClosedAI AMIRITE??) I thought this was on topic.
- LeonB 3y agoI’m not complaining. I’m trying to help you see why people can detect irony in the situation. I certainly was not angry about it. Please don’t respond to me further. (“Tekla” did indeed go ahead and triple down. That’s troll behaviour.)
- tekla 3y agoIt's not ironic.
- myself248 3y agoHOPE was founded during the heyday of HIP and other European conferences, which were prohibitively expensive for many Americans to attend. Last I checked, both Europe and New York were on planet Earth. Furthermore, it's not restricted, plenty of people attend from all over. NYC has some of the cheapest airfares of all international flights, so while it's undeniably more expensive than a domestic flight, it's the least-worst option in most cases.
- LeonB 3y agoI was answering the question of why there is (genuine) irony that a person can find in the name. A lot of people have trouble detecting irony. Showing that something can easily be interpreted in a non-ironic way does not, in any way, disprove that a thing can also be interpreted in an ironic way.
- tekla 3y agoPlease explain how its ironic.