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Just learned about H.O.P.E. which stands for "Hackers On Planet Earth", which is ironic because their events have never left the USA since '94 when they started
by mdrzn 3y ago
Just learned about H.O.P.E. which stands for "Hackers On Planet Earth", which is ironic because their events have never left the USA since '94 when they started.
- tekla 3y agoHow is this ironic
- LeonB 3y agoThe implied meaning (global) is in strong contrast to the actual meaning (restricted to the USA).
- tekla 3y agoBut that's not irony. It's also a weird thing to complain about. It happens in NYC and I know people who come internationally for HOPE. And even if they didn't, are US based attendees also not on planet earth? The things people try and fet angry about...
- throwaway458864 3y agoObviously it happens on planet earth and the visitors are hackers who live on planet earth. I don't think they care particularly if it's ironic, I think they just don't like the name and are looking for something to complain about. So let them complain.
- mdrzn 3y agoI wasn't complaining, I just posted something I noticed considering I just learned about this organization. I went to check the tickets, then the history of the event, and noticed that it has always been held in the US. Since HN in general likes to complain about names (OpenAI? more like ClosedAI AMIRITE??) I thought this was on topic.
- LeonB 3y agoI’m not complaining. I’m trying to help you see why people can detect irony in the situation. I certainly was not angry about it. Please don’t respond to me further. (“Tekla” did indeed go ahead and triple down. That’s troll behaviour.)
- tekla 3y agoIt's not ironic.
- myself248 3y agoHOPE was founded during the heyday of HIP and other European conferences, which were prohibitively expensive for many Americans to attend. Last I checked, both Europe and New York were on planet Earth. Furthermore, it's not restricted, plenty of people attend from all over. NYC has some of the cheapest airfares of all international flights, so while it's undeniably more expensive than a domestic flight, it's the least-worst option in most cases.
- LeonB 3y agoI was answering the question of why there is (genuine) irony that a person can find in the name. A lot of people have trouble detecting irony. Showing that something can easily be interpreted in a non-ironic way does not, in any way, disprove that a thing can also be interpreted in an ironic way.
- tekla 3y agoPlease explain how its ironic.
- tomrod 3y agoThe last time I checked, while many wish it weren't, USA is part of planet Earth. Though, it has been awhile since I confirmed.
- mdrzn 3y agoLovely and typical US-centric mentality, not even gonna bother explain. You're right! You're the best nation! Why even host somewhere else?
- tomrod 3y agoLovely and typical US-antagonist mentality, not even gonna bother explain. You're right! The US is a horrible place and should never ever be the butt of humor nor where anything global can be centered because . Why ever host in that crazy place? /s Look, the org is centered in the US, no? And has global aspirations? So why yuck their yum?