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I did a rented EV roadtrip in Norway and it was amazing with a Citroen e-c4. But Norway is probably one of the most saturated with chargers, and i still almost

I did a rented EV roadtrip in Norway and it was amazing with a Citroen e-c4. But Norway is probably one of the most saturated with chargers, and i still almost had to call service at some point because i went to zero, a bit nerve wrecking. This was because there is so many different apps and 20% do not work for foreigners, then 10% just don't work for anyone - so eventually you'll experience a small city where you can't charge, then have to re-route, and if that city also isn't working or isn't providing service then things can get tight. I'll say we are very close, but the "signing up for 10 different services" and following instructions on so many chargers, giving no service to foreigners because of some weird banking setup is what makes it not feasible yet. I could manage because im an IT pro, i couldn't imagine my mom figuring this stuff out. All chargers should have the same system by law, just beep your credit card and it starts charging, instead of requiring you to sign up through brittle interfaces in some weird app with bad cell service. I skipped the Tesla because it seemed cheap inside, had no speedometer (this is so weird), and the buttons on the steering wheel would drive me crazy, the Citroen was great though!

brnt 3y ago
You don't even have to be a foreigner: when friends come over and ask where to charge it's a total crapshoot whether or not their passes and/or apps'll work (this is NL). I don't understand why they don't just let users swipe with any old payment card. Why does payment need to be more complicated than filling up with gasoline?
- rsynnott 3y ago
  The EU AFIR regulation requires that, for any publicly accessible charging points installed after 13th of April 2024, adhoc recharging must be possible using a payment card or other commonly-used payment instrument. So, kind of cold comfort for existing ones, but this should sort itself out over the next few years.
ProllyInfamous 3y ago
>had no speedometer (this is so weird) My Toyota has both a dial speedometer [hidden behind right hand/wheel], and a large numeric speed display that is easily-viewable. Unfortuneately, if there is any status update (e.g. cruise control, low gas) then the numeric speed digits disappear (replaced with whatever status/issue) — at which point I then no longer know how fast I'm going. Fortunately, I believe both infotainment displays are running an open Linux distro — perhaps the numeric speedometer can be made permanent?

brnt 3y ago

You don't even have to be a foreigner: when friends come over and ask where to charge it's a total crapshoot whether or not their passes and/or apps'll work (this is NL). I don't understand why they don't just let users swipe with any old payment card. Why does payment need to be more complicated than filling up with gasoline?

rsynnott 3y ago
The EU AFIR regulation requires that, for any publicly accessible charging points installed after 13th of April 2024, adhoc recharging must be possible using a payment card or other commonly-used payment instrument. So, kind of cold comfort for existing ones, but this should sort itself out over the next few years.

ProllyInfamous 3y ago

>had no speedometer (this is so weird) My Toyota has both a dial speedometer [hidden behind right hand/wheel], and a large numeric speed display that is easily-viewable. Unfortuneately, if there is any status update (e.g. cruise control, low gas) then the numeric speed digits disappear (replaced with whatever status/issue) — at which point I then no longer know how fast I'm going. Fortunately, I believe both infotainment displays are running an open Linux distro — perhaps the numeric speedometer can be made permanent?