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It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have.

throw0101c 3y ago
> It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have. I just don't turn it on and so never use it.
- walterbell 3y ago
  Per the article, you are still using "Siri" (non-voice features), even if you never enabled Siri-for-voice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39928357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39928357
- jSully24 3y ago
  Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru).
  - throw0101c 3y ago
    > Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru). I drive a 2003 Golf: there is no Car Play.
  - lancesells 3y ago
    Same here. I do think it makes some sense in that case.
    - diggan 3y ago
      I'm also in the situation where I use Siri for nothing, but I want to use CarPlay. I don't use the voice control for anything, in the car or otherwise. How does it make sense to force me to have Siri enabled?
      - kemayo 3y ago
        There's a bunch of parts of CarPlay which assume you can use Siri. Interacting with notifications, sending / responding-to messages, searching for things in maps, etc. Apple could disable everything that would kick itself out to a Siri-interaction for input, but that'd probably feel confusingly-broken.
gumby 3y ago
“Siri” (whatever it has morphed into) is a pervasive DWIM engine in iOS these days. When you do a search for an app Siri decides what to display (e.g. when I go to a certain location with a “smart” lock and pull down search, the app for that lock is always offered first, but never in other locations). These days the voice part is just a UI mode. I use it on my watch and occasionally on my phone when I am wearing earbuds and my phone is in my pocket, but have it disabled on my Mac.
- DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
  > DWIM Siri is worse than Cortana in this respect…
- user_7832 3y ago
  > DWIM Thanks, learnt something new! (It stands for Do What I Mean). Interesting pages: 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishmen...
1vuio0pswjnm7 3y ago
"I don't want a voice assistant, and never have." "It's not the customer's job to know what they want" -- Steve Jobs
- taneq 3y ago
  I'd be happy to have a voice assistant that was actually smart. Every few months I ask Siri if it's powered by a language model yet. So far it hasn't even been able to understand the question.
Gud 3y ago
Absolutely. One extremely annoying anti-feature is that to use CarPlay you must have Siri enabled.

> It would be much better if I could just uninstall Siri. I don't want a voice assistant, and never have. I just don't turn it on and so never use it.

walterbell 3y ago
Per the article, you are still using "Siri" (non-voice features), even if you never enabled Siri-for-voice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39928357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39928357
jSully24 3y ago
Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru).
- throw0101c 3y ago
  > Car Play will not enable with Siri turned off (at least in my 2019 Subaru). I drive a 2003 Golf: there is no Car Play.
- lancesells 3y ago
  Same here. I do think it makes some sense in that case.
  - diggan 3y ago
    I'm also in the situation where I use Siri for nothing, but I want to use CarPlay. I don't use the voice control for anything, in the car or otherwise. How does it make sense to force me to have Siri enabled?
    - kemayo 3y ago
      There's a bunch of parts of CarPlay which assume you can use Siri. Interacting with notifications, sending / responding-to messages, searching for things in maps, etc. Apple could disable everything that would kick itself out to a Siri-interaction for input, but that'd probably feel confusingly-broken.

gumby 3y ago

“Siri” (whatever it has morphed into) is a pervasive DWIM engine in iOS these days. When you do a search for an app Siri decides what to display (e.g. when I go to a certain location with a “smart” lock and pull down search, the app for that lock is always offered first, but never in other locations). These days the voice part is just a UI mode. I use it on my watch and occasionally on my phone when I am wearing earbuds and my phone is in my pocket, but have it disabled on my Mac.

DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
> DWIM Siri is worse than Cortana in this respect…
user_7832 3y ago
> DWIM Thanks, learnt something new! (It stands for Do What I Mean). Interesting pages: 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWIM 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishmen...

1vuio0pswjnm7 3y ago

"I don't want a voice assistant, and never have." "It's not the customer's job to know what they want" -- Steve Jobs

taneq 3y ago
I'd be happy to have a voice assistant that was actually smart. Every few months I ask Siri if it's powered by a language model yet. So far it hasn't even been able to understand the question.

Gud 3y ago

Absolutely. One extremely annoying anti-feature is that to use CarPlay you must have Siri enabled.