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I remain shocked anyone trusts Meta, Google, or Apple marketing on privacy. These companies are all fundamentally similar in that their proprietary software co
by lrvick 3y ago
I remain shocked anyone trusts Meta, Google, or Apple marketing on privacy.
These companies are all fundamentally similar in that their proprietary software
collects an insane amount of data that will
end up in the hands of your enemies either by sale, court order, or security compromise.
It is relatively easy to opt out of all of these companies and take some actual control over your privacy.
- tremarley 3y agoApple’s PR team is remarkable. They get away with nearly everything
- jzzskijj 3y agoWhat is the easiest way to get comparable smartphone experience with some actual control over your privacy?
- sebtron 3y agoYour choices are very limited, but you can get an android phone supported by LineageOS or other alternative roms.
- jzzskijj 3y agoI have tried, a long time ago, LineageOS on Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4. The both of the ports were so buggy, that by those experiences I could not trust the maintainers to be capable of securing the system. It may have been a false assumption, but I had to think stability/bugs and security must correlate at some levels.
- lrvick 3y agoActually if you link popular software with a hardened memory allocator, apps will just crash a lot instead of allowing buffer overflows that are shockingly common. YOLO mallocs most operating systems ship allow an application to -feel- faster and more stable at the expense of security. If you want software to be stable in a strict malloc environment, write it in rust :) To be fair though, LineageOS security is actually terrible. Do not use it. If you must have an Android device CalyxOS is the least bad option today.
- lrvick 3y agoThere is no comparable option. I have not carried a phone in 3+ years. In spite of what some would have you believe, it is actually relatively easy to live an active and socially engaged life in the modern world without a phone. Major mental health wins from being offline when you are away from your desk too.
- jjulius 3y ago>In spite of what some would have you believe, it is actually relatively easy to live an active and socially engaged life in the modern world without a phone. Right? This is completely anecdotal, but I've occasionally seen people lament, "You have to bank, as well as manage health and travel stuff on your phone". My follow up is always, "What can I do with those apps on my phone that I can't do via a laptop or desktop?" I am typically met with silence. Seriously - beyond SMS 2FA, there's nothing I can do on my phone that I can't do on my desktop, and I sure as hell don't need to have constant access to all of that when I'm out and about.
- laniakean 3y agoI would say to get an android phone and flash Graphene OS (Pixel phones) on it.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoPractically any Android phone from a reputable vendor. The default apps might share more data than you might like, but it does give you actual control to turn that off. You don't have to send your location to anybody any time an app requests it like iPhones send your location to Apple. You don't have to tell anyone you installed an app like iPhones tell Apple.
- Terretta 3y agoThey are fundamentally different in that two of them derive revenue solely* from exploiting your data, and one of them doesn't. * by-and-large
- lrvick 3y agoThey became as successful as they are by collecting massive amounts of data to learn to effectively psychologically manipulate people into buying their products, convincing them they are the most secure, fastest, most private option that will make people like them more for using. Apple is above all else a data driven marketing and advertising firm just like Google and Meta. They are profitable because they are effective at using data to change user purchasing behavior.
- MatthiasPortzel 3y agoWild to assert that Steve “I never rely on marketing research” Jobs was successfully only because he did better market research than his competitors.
- alickz 3y agoit seems Apple's hardware revenue have started to plateau, and their services revenue is in jeopardy with the new EU changes to the App Store it wouldn't surprise me if Apple started ramping up their data revenue in the near future to compensate
- kmlx 3y ago> and their services revenue is in jeopardy with the new EU changes to the App Store the services revenue is at an all time high and keeps climbing: https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/14629/apple-services-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/14629/apple-services-reve... re. app store, the EU market represents just 7% of their worldwide app store revenues, most probably due to the fact the EU market is 65% android: https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/01/apple-says-eu-represents-7-of-global-app-store-revenue/amp/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACIfg0xNOHkxAH0fqQtwwxrssN05KU1V5qC7603lmLEzQwysH6mc2mrWbRqYf-Nu_M9z6e_3uYm2Y19In3ZwY38ThOZidt_1fQVLUbBjmFyJukmoVZtXZ5dR3iqO6-yWD5P4Iyjn8FCJtBnu_Q9XxvJbyHOcKRR69zkIF91X3PWF https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/01/apple-says-eu-represents-7... https://www.statista.com/statistics/639928/market-share-mobile-operating-systems-eu/#:~:text=Since%20overtaking%20iOS%20in%202013,percent%20of%20European%20mobile%20phones https://www.statista.com/statistics/639928/market-share-mobi....
- Angostura 3y agoThere's no suggestion that I can see that Apple collects this for marketing. It's collected on-device for suggestions. The exceptions are adverts in the App Store and News
- hk1337 3y agoI know it's crazy but I trust Apple a lot more than I would Google or Meta when it comes to my data.
- Synaesthesia 3y agoSnowden revealed the PRISM program which shows that the US government works with Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft etc to surveil the public.
- hk1337 3y agoYeah, I don't fully trust Apple, just more than Google and Meta. I would expect the government can get information from just about any company if they really want it.
- alemanek 3y agoI don’t expect to be able to have privacy in the face of a state actor. I just want the company to keep my data private from other commercial players. Like don’t sell all my data to anyone who asks or use it to create an invasive model to then advertise/manipulate me. I think it is reasonable to say that Apple is better on that front than Meta or Google.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoNo, the PRISM program shows they surveil specific foreigners living outside the US with a court order.
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- snowpid 3y agoMost of the world are foreigners living outside the US.