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> Stop arguing for this about cost, or "family friendliness", or preschool availability, or anything else, because you are immediately missing the actual reason

> Stop arguing for this about cost, or "family friendliness", or preschool availability, or anything else, because you are immediately missing the actual reasons. NIMBYs are racist. It's that simple. Zoning and land use is designed to keep minorities away from "pure" suburbs. Counterargument: The same/equivalent zoning, land use and NIMBY problems happen in countries that are racially homogeneous.

bwestergard 3y ago
Can you give a few examples?
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  The Maldives are the most monoethnic nation-state in the world [1]. They have strict land use regulations [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity [2] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/geography-of-inequality-how-land-use-regulation-produces-segregation/BAB4ABDF014670550615CE670FF66016 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-s...
- nick__m 3y ago
  I live in a city in Québec that is, according to 2018 census, 94.2% white. And the land use, parking and "neighborhood's character" policies are present. The divide is among the socioeconomic status.
- zajio1am 3y ago
  e.g. Czechia. Racially homogenous and have one of least affordable properties in Europe. https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/prague-is-the-third-most-expensive-city-in-europe-to-purchase-property https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/prague-is-the-third...
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Tiktaalik 3y ago
The parent is only slightly off the mark. The core underlying thing that is driving exclusionary zoning is not racism, but classism. But racial exclusion is the bonus on top because race and class are often related. When zoning was beginning to be broadly implemented in the 1930s the core goal was to limit apartments. Apartments were filled of relatively low income, working class renters. They were often also racial minorities too. Two core reasons why wealthy single family home owners wanted to push them far away.

bwestergard 3y ago

Can you give a few examples?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
The Maldives are the most monoethnic nation-state in the world [1]. They have strict land use regulations [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoethnicity [2] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/geography-of-inequality-how-land-use-regulation-produces-segregation/BAB4ABDF014670550615CE670FF66016 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-s...
nick__m 3y ago
I live in a city in Québec that is, according to 2018 census, 94.2% white. And the land use, parking and "neighborhood's character" policies are present. The divide is among the socioeconomic status.
zajio1am 3y ago
e.g. Czechia. Racially homogenous and have one of least affordable properties in Europe. https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/prague-is-the-third-most-expensive-city-in-europe-to-purchase-property https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/prague-is-the-third...

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Tiktaalik 3y ago

The parent is only slightly off the mark. The core underlying thing that is driving exclusionary zoning is not racism, but classism. But racial exclusion is the bonus on top because race and class are often related. When zoning was beginning to be broadly implemented in the 1930s the core goal was to limit apartments. Apartments were filled of relatively low income, working class renters. They were often also racial minorities too. Two core reasons why wealthy single family home owners wanted to push them far away.