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I find LLMs to be useful tools like any other piece of software. Prompting to get creative ideas is just like using any other software and coding it to respond

I find LLMs to be useful tools like any other piece of software. Prompting to get creative ideas is just like using any other software and coding it to respond with various options by say, pruning a large set of options based on a heuristic. In this case it’s a black box and the software is a bunch of words strung together. Also, I don’t pay for ChatGPT and often do this on local LLMs because it’s fun to use new technology. You seem to have an axe to grind, good for you, I think we need lots of variety of opinion and passion as a society.

Intralexical 2y ago
I think it's poor form to bring the unvetted outputs of a pseudorandom algorithm to a discussion with real people who are investing their own mental effort and emotional energy. If you couldn't be bothered to have the thought, why would you expect other people to listen to you? That's the opposite of having "lots of variety of opinion and passion as a society". It's outsourcing cognition to a machine designed to emulate the most banal, superficial, and mediocre aspects of human expression.
- codezero 2y ago
  That’s your opinion, but I was clear about the origin of the information which is accessible to anyone, it’s up to others to vet and validate information they find online, and furthermore, what you think is poor form is strictly your personal opinion and has little to do with the implied social etiquette of this forum, and nothing to do with its actual rules. You continue to grind your axe without considering or responding to my opinion about LLMs utility as a tool. Like any tool, it can be used for good and bad things. No matter what you feel about LLMs and other generative “AI,” they’re here to stay. If you choose to be ignorant of how to use such tools to your benefit, nobody is going to stop you.
  - Intralexical 2y ago
    > That’s your opinion, but I was clear about the origin of the information which is accessible to anyone, it’s up to others to vet and validate information they find online, and furthermore, what you think is poor form is strictly your personal opinion and has little to do with the implied social etiquette of this forum, and nothing to do with its actual rules. Evidently not. > codezero 1 day ago > [flagged] Do you always get this upset, argumentative, and perceive personal attack when people disagree with you?
    - codezero 2y ago
      I've been very civil, being flagged doesn't mean I broke the rules, flags are crowdsourced and it's more likely related to your axe grinding and the four downvotes which I'm fine with. If you are implying I broke the rules, please cite the rule I broke. The comment I responded to literally said: > My only hypothesis is that the attacker may have thought that it should look plausible as a test The entire premise of this thread is speculation, which I did. Furthermore, the GPT response prompted me to come up with my own speculation (I won't call it a hypothesis, as this is not science): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39917474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39917474 I never said anything about a personal attack. You didn't disagree with me (There wasn't anything to agree to, I was speculating), you went on a tirade about how much you dislike people using ChatGPT. I don't have a problem with you, or your opinions about ChatGPT, in fact, I respect them. You also haven't considered one thing: Posting trash responses by various LLMs on public forms will help weaken future LLMs by poisoning their inputs. If you hate LLMs so much, you should consider doing your part to poison their inputs so they become irrelevant, case in point, this thread is the third result for "uname used in malware" on Kagi, and first on Google. Stop being a passive participant and fight LLMs at the front if you care so much.

Intralexical 2y ago

I think it's poor form to bring the unvetted outputs of a pseudorandom algorithm to a discussion with real people who are investing their own mental effort and emotional energy. If you couldn't be bothered to have the thought, why would you expect other people to listen to you? That's the opposite of having "lots of variety of opinion and passion as a society". It's outsourcing cognition to a machine designed to emulate the most banal, superficial, and mediocre aspects of human expression.

codezero 2y ago
That’s your opinion, but I was clear about the origin of the information which is accessible to anyone, it’s up to others to vet and validate information they find online, and furthermore, what you think is poor form is strictly your personal opinion and has little to do with the implied social etiquette of this forum, and nothing to do with its actual rules. You continue to grind your axe without considering or responding to my opinion about LLMs utility as a tool. Like any tool, it can be used for good and bad things. No matter what you feel about LLMs and other generative “AI,” they’re here to stay. If you choose to be ignorant of how to use such tools to your benefit, nobody is going to stop you.
- Intralexical 2y ago
  > That’s your opinion, but I was clear about the origin of the information which is accessible to anyone, it’s up to others to vet and validate information they find online, and furthermore, what you think is poor form is strictly your personal opinion and has little to do with the implied social etiquette of this forum, and nothing to do with its actual rules. Evidently not. > codezero 1 day ago > [flagged] Do you always get this upset, argumentative, and perceive personal attack when people disagree with you?
  - codezero 2y ago
    I've been very civil, being flagged doesn't mean I broke the rules, flags are crowdsourced and it's more likely related to your axe grinding and the four downvotes which I'm fine with. If you are implying I broke the rules, please cite the rule I broke. The comment I responded to literally said: > My only hypothesis is that the attacker may have thought that it should look plausible as a test The entire premise of this thread is speculation, which I did. Furthermore, the GPT response prompted me to come up with my own speculation (I won't call it a hypothesis, as this is not science): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39917474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39917474 I never said anything about a personal attack. You didn't disagree with me (There wasn't anything to agree to, I was speculating), you went on a tirade about how much you dislike people using ChatGPT. I don't have a problem with you, or your opinions about ChatGPT, in fact, I respect them. You also haven't considered one thing: Posting trash responses by various LLMs on public forms will help weaken future LLMs by poisoning their inputs. If you hate LLMs so much, you should consider doing your part to poison their inputs so they become irrelevant, case in point, this thread is the third result for "uname used in malware" on Kagi, and first on Google. Stop being a passive participant and fight LLMs at the front if you care so much.