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I'm probably pro-isreal because I'm a realpolitik American that wants America's best interest. (But I'm not strong either way) Just watched someone get their p

I'm probably pro-isreal because I'm a realpolitik American that wants America's best interest. (But I'm not strong either way) Just watched someone get their post deleted for criticizing Israel's online PR/astroturfing. Israel's ability to shape online discussion has left a bad taste in my mouth. Trust is insanely low, I think the US should get a real military base in Israel in exchange for our effort. If the US gets nothing for their support, I'd be disgusted.

wara23arish 3y ago
Im curious, if you’re realpolitik american. Can you explain why would the USA support one country instead of appeasing 300 million in the area? What are the benefits out of being so pro israel?
- emchammer 3y ago
  It is the promised land of the Bible (Torah), where there used to be The Temple to THE God. As for all the details arising from that, that's the realpolitik.
- xenospn 3y ago
  They do both.
dang 3y ago
Posts don't get deleted on HN, except on rare occasions when the author asks us to delete something (and usually then only if they didn't get replies). Posts do get flagged and/or killed, whether by user flags, software, or mods, but you can always see all of those if you turn 'showdead' on in your profile. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. If you notice a post getting flagged and/or killed that shouldn't have been, you can let us know and we'll take a look. You can also use the 'vouch' feature, also described in https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.
Georgelemental 3y ago
I'm a realpolitik American that wants America's best interest, which is why I 100% oppose Israel's war. Israel has spent decades playing us for fools, disregarding all our concerns and making the world hate us while taking billions of our money. Here is how Netanyahu talks about us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8TxOwYte0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8TxOwYte0 https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/
Sporktacular 3y ago
In another post, my comment about Act.IL and Hasbara Fellowships were not only mass downvoted, but after being killed the commenter indicated this was their intention and wished me a nice day. Felt creepy. Dang brought it back up, to his great credit. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Sporktacular&next=39143317#38945984 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Sporktacular&next=39...

wara23arish 3y ago

Im curious, if you’re realpolitik american. Can you explain why would the USA support one country instead of appeasing 300 million in the area? What are the benefits out of being so pro israel?

emchammer 3y ago
It is the promised land of the Bible (Torah), where there used to be The Temple to THE God. As for all the details arising from that, that's the realpolitik.
xenospn 3y ago
They do both.

dang 3y ago

Posts don't get deleted on HN, except on rare occasions when the author asks us to delete something (and usually then only if they didn't get replies). Posts do get flagged and/or killed, whether by user flags, software, or mods, but you can always see all of those if you turn 'showdead' on in your profile. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. If you notice a post getting flagged and/or killed that shouldn't have been, you can let us know and we'll take a look. You can also use the 'vouch' feature, also described in https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

Georgelemental 3y ago

I'm a realpolitik American that wants America's best interest, which is why I 100% oppose Israel's war. Israel has spent decades playing us for fools, disregarding all our concerns and making the world hate us while taking billions of our money. Here is how Netanyahu talks about us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8TxOwYte0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8TxOwYte0 https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/

Sporktacular 3y ago

In another post, my comment about Act.IL and Hasbara Fellowships were not only mass downvoted, but after being killed the commenter indicated this was their intention and wished me a nice day. Felt creepy. Dang brought it back up, to his great credit. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Sporktacular&next=39143317#38945984 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Sporktacular&next=39...