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Isn't iDrive a BMW trademark for decades? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_iDrive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_iDrive

sp332 3y ago
Trademarks only apply to specific classes of things. https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/goods-and-services https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/goods-and-services
- jjtheblunt 3y ago
  That's useful: thanks.
jjtheblunt 3y ago
Downvoted for a question? How laughably degenerate.
- freedomben 3y ago
  Yeah it can get pretty ridiculous. Fortunately over time things tend to even out, but for whatever reason a lot of early HN participants downvote everything. My theory is that the people who would downvote a question like this one are the people who go around reading passive aggression in every little thing. Possibly people that assume every question is secretly an agenda to propagate an opinion they disagree with, and that there are hidden implications everywhere.
  - jjtheblunt 3y ago
    Yep, but i have been here long and the non-contributing downvote phenomenon seemed to me to start when HN got more widespread participation. How did you figure out the conversation sniping to be earlier members?
    - freedomben 3y ago
      Ah thank you, I must clarify! I was terribly and unintentionally ambiguous earlier. I didn't mean earlier members as in people who joined HN in the early years, rather I meant the people who tend to react and comment within maybe the first 30 minutes after a post/comment. I actually find the early members (as in the early 2010s and before) to be among the best. I have no idea if they are downvoters or not, but some of my favorite conversations on HN have been with these users. As far as sourcing, definitely take with a big grain of salt because this is also purely anecdata that I've noticed from spending way too much time on HN, both repeatedly having my own comments downvoted initially while (usually) rising up over time, and observing the same phenomenon on many other people's comments.
      - jjtheblunt 3y ago
        Oh, yes, i have noticed the same.

sp332 3y ago

Trademarks only apply to specific classes of things. https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/goods-and-services https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/goods-and-services

jjtheblunt 3y ago
That's useful: thanks.

jjtheblunt 3y ago

Downvoted for a question? How laughably degenerate.

freedomben 3y ago
Yeah it can get pretty ridiculous. Fortunately over time things tend to even out, but for whatever reason a lot of early HN participants downvote everything. My theory is that the people who would downvote a question like this one are the people who go around reading passive aggression in every little thing. Possibly people that assume every question is secretly an agenda to propagate an opinion they disagree with, and that there are hidden implications everywhere.
- jjtheblunt 3y ago
  Yep, but i have been here long and the non-contributing downvote phenomenon seemed to me to start when HN got more widespread participation. How did you figure out the conversation sniping to be earlier members?
  - freedomben 3y ago
    Ah thank you, I must clarify! I was terribly and unintentionally ambiguous earlier. I didn't mean earlier members as in people who joined HN in the early years, rather I meant the people who tend to react and comment within maybe the first 30 minutes after a post/comment. I actually find the early members (as in the early 2010s and before) to be among the best. I have no idea if they are downvoters or not, but some of my favorite conversations on HN have been with these users. As far as sourcing, definitely take with a big grain of salt because this is also purely anecdata that I've noticed from spending way too much time on HN, both repeatedly having my own comments downvoted initially while (usually) rising up over time, and observing the same phenomenon on many other people's comments.
    - jjtheblunt 3y ago
      Oh, yes, i have noticed the same.