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I'd love to buy a cheap truck with no bells and whistles (under $25k) with a simple V6 (no hybrid or turbocharged 4 cylinder and a dozen other components sure t

I'd love to buy a cheap truck with no bells and whistles (under $25k) with a simple V6 (no hybrid or turbocharged 4 cylinder and a dozen other components sure to fail). The problem is they make more money selling $80k-$120k trucks and until recently... people kept buying them. Hopefully the market reverses. As a result, a tiny Toyota truck no longer exists in the US. I'm sure emissions standards and the overall increasing size of people in the US has played a role as well.

darth_avocado 3y ago
Looks like you need a $5000 Kei truck. https://www.businessinsider.com/tiny-japanese-kei-trucks-winning-fans-america-2023-6?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/tiny-japanese-kei-trucks-win...
- zdragnar 3y ago
  If it can't go on a freeway, it is not an option for many people.
- switchbak 3y ago
  Or a 10k Toyota IMV 0. Seriously - a simple, inexpensive yet utilitarian Toyota?? Yes please. But of course, they won't sell that in North America.
  - baggy_trough 3y ago
    That's because the U.S. government doesn't allow it.
jqpabc123 3y ago
I'd love o buy a cheap truck with no bells and whistles (under $25k) with a simple V6 Sounds like you're looking for a "work truck". A lot of these $100K monstrosities only haul the owner's ego. They're too afraid to haul anything else in it --- it might get scratched. But from the manufacturer's perspective --- why build a cheap truck if people will buy the monstrosity? There is a lot more profit to be made from it.
- 7thaccount 3y ago
  Lol I'm from the south where practically everyone has to have one and thus familiar with the terminology, but it goes deeper than that. It used to be you could get something like a Chevy S10. It wasn't really a work truck, but a small truck for running errands without paying $100 at the pump. They don't seem to make any small trucks like that anymore. Even the supposedly Spartan work trucks are goliaths in terms of size and cost.
  - jqpabc123 3y ago
    Lol I'm from the south where practically everyone has to have one... Why "everyone has to have one"? I dare say that "everyone" really don't know --- but they still want one. In other words, "everyone" has been brainwashed by marketing and peer pressure and convinced to ignore their own reality and buy something they don't really need and can't really afford. And leading them like cattle to slaughter, the auto industry has been laughing all the way to the bank. But reality is persistent and refuses to be ignored for too long.
    - 7thaccount 3y ago
      It's a generational thing. If your daddy had one and his daddy had one, you have to have one or you're a wimp. Granted, their grandfather or great-grandfather was probably a farmer or blue collar or lived in a rural area that was off-road, so it may have made sense. However, most of my neighbors are all white collar, but still drive trucks because that's just what's done. It's absolutely ridiculous.
      - cherry_tree 3y ago
        The generational thing is called toxic masculinity. What a perfect example of why it’s called “toxic” - because it forces men today to make decisions that aren’t otherwise optimal to protect their perceived masculinity in the face of their peers and elders.
        3y ago
sofixa 3y ago
Depending on what you want that truck for, there are options: if it's for the storage capacity and volume, there are work vans (Ford Transit Connect / Renault Kangoo); if it's for offroading, there are vehicles like Subaru's whole lineup; if it's for towing I don't know but I'm sure there are vehicles capable of towing that aren't pickups.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  > but I'm sure there are vehicles capable of towing that aren't pickups. Based on what I've seen, UHaul will happy weld a trailer hitch to almost anything.

darth_avocado 3y ago

Looks like you need a $5000 Kei truck. https://www.businessinsider.com/tiny-japanese-kei-trucks-winning-fans-america-2023-6?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/tiny-japanese-kei-trucks-win...

zdragnar 3y ago
If it can't go on a freeway, it is not an option for many people.
switchbak 3y ago
Or a 10k Toyota IMV 0. Seriously - a simple, inexpensive yet utilitarian Toyota?? Yes please. But of course, they won't sell that in North America.
- baggy_trough 3y ago
  That's because the U.S. government doesn't allow it.

jqpabc123 3y ago

I'd love o buy a cheap truck with no bells and whistles (under $25k) with a simple V6 Sounds like you're looking for a "work truck". A lot of these $100K monstrosities only haul the owner's ego. They're too afraid to haul anything else in it --- it might get scratched. But from the manufacturer's perspective --- why build a cheap truck if people will buy the monstrosity? There is a lot more profit to be made from it.

7thaccount 3y ago
Lol I'm from the south where practically everyone has to have one and thus familiar with the terminology, but it goes deeper than that. It used to be you could get something like a Chevy S10. It wasn't really a work truck, but a small truck for running errands without paying $100 at the pump. They don't seem to make any small trucks like that anymore. Even the supposedly Spartan work trucks are goliaths in terms of size and cost.
- jqpabc123 3y ago
  Lol I'm from the south where practically everyone has to have one... Why "everyone has to have one"? I dare say that "everyone" really don't know --- but they still want one. In other words, "everyone" has been brainwashed by marketing and peer pressure and convinced to ignore their own reality and buy something they don't really need and can't really afford. And leading them like cattle to slaughter, the auto industry has been laughing all the way to the bank. But reality is persistent and refuses to be ignored for too long.
  - 7thaccount 3y ago
    It's a generational thing. If your daddy had one and his daddy had one, you have to have one or you're a wimp. Granted, their grandfather or great-grandfather was probably a farmer or blue collar or lived in a rural area that was off-road, so it may have made sense. However, most of my neighbors are all white collar, but still drive trucks because that's just what's done. It's absolutely ridiculous.
    - cherry_tree 3y ago
      The generational thing is called toxic masculinity. What a perfect example of why it’s called “toxic” - because it forces men today to make decisions that aren’t otherwise optimal to protect their perceived masculinity in the face of their peers and elders.
      - 3y ago

sofixa 3y ago

Depending on what you want that truck for, there are options: if it's for the storage capacity and volume, there are work vans (Ford Transit Connect / Renault Kangoo); if it's for offroading, there are vehicles like Subaru's whole lineup; if it's for towing I don't know but I'm sure there are vehicles capable of towing that aren't pickups.

ethbr1 3y ago
> but I'm sure there are vehicles capable of towing that aren't pickups. Based on what I've seen, UHaul will happy weld a trailer hitch to almost anything.