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>> just be an electrified Civic Take my money! That is exactly what I want. I want a basic car that does car stuff. Cut the networking. Cut the touchscreen

>> just be an electrified Civic Take my money! That is exactly what I want. I want a basic car that does car stuff. Cut the networking. Cut the touchscreens. I want a car that starts and moves reliably with some basic comforts. I would pay more for a car without touchscreens. I would pay more for an electric car without bluetooth.

kraquepype 3y ago
Same, I ended up with a Kia Niro EV (previous gen) because it doesn't resemble your typical bleeding edge EV. It shares a platform with the ICE Niro, and aside from the charging port and obvious lack of exhaust pipe it doesn't look like an EV. Give me a basic EV that looks like a normal car and I'd be happy.
MarkusWandel 3y ago
Then buy a Civic. I have a 2023. It has a touchscreen. Which is entirely devoted to "non core functionality" such as bluetooth calling (which also has steering wheel controls), Android Auto/Apple Carplay, radio etc. The only "core" functionality is that it displays backup camera video when reversing. All the standard buttons and controls are there. The button to push the trunk, the child lock enable/disable, the mirror adjusts, the (electric) parking brake, you name it. Nothing that was a physical control on my previous cars has been touchscreened. The car even has a completely separate menu system, with a completely separate gauge-cluster LCD, for the "core" stuff. Not touch screen. Steering wheel buttons. That menu system isn't the greatest, but you also don't need it day to day.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  They want a Civic EV.
- sandworm101 3y ago
  I still want a manual transmission (if not an EV) and manual parking brake. I keep cars for decades. I don't want to deal with "conveniences" that brick the rest of the car when they break.
  - numpad0 3y ago
    It's actually just Tesla anticonsumerism that the touchscreen is integral to the car. In legacy cars with A/C knobs separate to the screen, the screen is usually just eyecandy that can be safely removed without impacting everything up to self driving. It's just airliner seatback movie screen for cars has nothing to do with flying or driving. So if you get a ... I'm not particularly Honda inclined, so I'd say, if you go for anything in the price range of Civic or vicinity, and made sure there's separate physical A/C knobs that aren't connected to the center screen, you should be able to just later install a 2035 Adobe CarPlayAuto 23.4 compliant head unit when the time comes, and keep the car just as you wish(dc I'm not a car manufacturer rep, dyor required).

kraquepype 3y ago

Same, I ended up with a Kia Niro EV (previous gen) because it doesn't resemble your typical bleeding edge EV. It shares a platform with the ICE Niro, and aside from the charging port and obvious lack of exhaust pipe it doesn't look like an EV. Give me a basic EV that looks like a normal car and I'd be happy.

MarkusWandel 3y ago

Then buy a Civic. I have a 2023. It has a touchscreen. Which is entirely devoted to "non core functionality" such as bluetooth calling (which also has steering wheel controls), Android Auto/Apple Carplay, radio etc. The only "core" functionality is that it displays backup camera video when reversing. All the standard buttons and controls are there. The button to push the trunk, the child lock enable/disable, the mirror adjusts, the (electric) parking brake, you name it. Nothing that was a physical control on my previous cars has been touchscreened. The car even has a completely separate menu system, with a completely separate gauge-cluster LCD, for the "core" stuff. Not touch screen. Steering wheel buttons. That menu system isn't the greatest, but you also don't need it day to day.

bdcravens 3y ago
They want a Civic EV.
sandworm101 3y ago
I still want a manual transmission (if not an EV) and manual parking brake. I keep cars for decades. I don't want to deal with "conveniences" that brick the rest of the car when they break.
- numpad0 3y ago
  It's actually just Tesla anticonsumerism that the touchscreen is integral to the car. In legacy cars with A/C knobs separate to the screen, the screen is usually just eyecandy that can be safely removed without impacting everything up to self driving. It's just airliner seatback movie screen for cars has nothing to do with flying or driving. So if you get a ... I'm not particularly Honda inclined, so I'd say, if you go for anything in the price range of Civic or vicinity, and made sure there's separate physical A/C knobs that aren't connected to the center screen, you should be able to just later install a 2035 Adobe CarPlayAuto 23.4 compliant head unit when the time comes, and keep the car just as you wish(dc I'm not a car manufacturer rep, dyor required).