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This doesn’t make sense, it’s not dependent on quality. You literally would have to spend an infinite amount of time pondering an infinite number of possible fu
by MichaelZuo 3y ago
This doesn’t make sense, it’s not dependent on quality. You literally would have to spend an infinite amount of time pondering an infinite number of possible futures to accomplish anything, at even the lowest possible amount of ‘good’.
Hence it’s physically impossible to advance a single nanometer on this line of reasoning.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoHow do you advance decisions about yourself when there's an infinite number of future possibilities for you?
- MichaelZuo 3y agoI pick a finite number of possibilities and ignore the rest? This is genuinely surprising to me, do you not understand how people make decisions?
- kelseyfrog 3y agoWhy does that work for you, but doesn't extend when considering others? Simply make n>1, no?
- MichaelZuo 3y agoI’m really not sure how else to put this… there are 8 billion plus people, each with their own, not entirely identical, desires. Just as complex as your own, some so much more complex that you literally can not keep up with them (assuming there are some bonafide super geniuses out there). How could you possibly extend this to all of them without running into an even more intractable problem?
- kelseyfrog 3y agoThis is a serious question. Why not pick a finite number of possibilities and ignore the rest?
- MichaelZuo 3y agoYes that’s my point, and because you want to ‘extend’ to ‘n>1’, this is doubly impossible without picking. i.e. you literally cannot accomplish this otherwise, even for the simplest case of n=2, with certainty. Since there’s always a non zero possibility of any chosen person becoming much smarter and wiser than you in the future. Via ignoring the infinite number of futures where they do.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoThe infinities have the same cardinality. Any consideration of a finite subset still ignores an infinite number of unconsidered possibilities whether n=1 or not. Besides, any choice you make for yourself has an impact on others in the second order. Ignoring it makes the problem worse. No one is a isolated system, no man an island.
- MichaelZuo 3y agoYes that’s my point, n=1 is already impossible, n>1 even more so.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoHow can something be more impossible? Impossiblity is boolean.
- MichaelZuo 3y agoStop messing around. Take the lesson learned and move on out of here, I’m being generous but someone less patient would have flagged this by now. Digging an ever deeper hole for yourself at this point is distracting from the actual post.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoThere's always the possibility of going back, re-reading and changing your mind. What's the worst that could happen if you believed that you could make decisions while keeping in mind other people?